I like SOB with the exception of the ROSE BOWL. The speed you get on the first drop is amazing. Then you realize that woodies don't go this fast for a reason. The loop is fun and the section after the loop is fun, but that Rose Bowl really hurt me and that is why I will ride it only once a year. Granted we only visit PKI once a year, but it only warrants one ride. Papa Beast on the other hand I can ride it several times during the day.