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A little OT. I will beg to differ as well. Everytime I make it down to WOF there are quite a few young boys and girls riding Mamba. While many are nervous in the begining they all some to have fun.
UK NeMeSiS said:
CoastaPlaya... only very few 6 year old boys would be tall enough and brave enough to ride a hyper. Come on... you should have thought before making that post!
CoastaPlaya said:
Coaster Bob: Surely you jest. You just have to be. Chicagolanders will drive away from their local park with a hyper and an impulse to Muskegon to do what? Ride another hyper or impulse? And they would do this why?
They do that now. I live in SW MI and I see a LOT of people from Illinois that just want to get out of Chicago. MIA is a great place to go to escape from the city. Many people from my area would rather go to MIA than SFGAm just because they don't want to drive through Chicago (The two parks are equal distances away too).
It's the same with CP and Detroit; why do you see so many people from there at CP? They want to get out of the city and do something like go to an amusement park. This is why MI is a great business opportunity. In 15-20 yrs this could be a great park (not that it already is) like CP is now, although a tad smaller.
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UK NeMeSiS said:
Thorpe which is growing faster... parhaps an intamin rocket giga? ohhhhhh yea.
Thorpe Park will never get the approval to even add a hyper with their restrictions and the majority of the non-panicers you see on Superman:ride of Steel are thoselittle boys that don't know the meaning of fear yet. That's the beauty of childhood, and that's why they ride.
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I pray that the next coaster @ CP will be an Arrow 4D
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I pray that the next coaster @ CP will be an Arrow 4D
mOOSH
Steel + Thrilling + Appeal to All Ages = Setpoint Super Saturator
Incidentally, what is the cost on one of those things (FSS or RS)?
Later,
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thepinkdoomof monkeys: You couldn't be any more dead-on. An out-and-back hyper--and which one isn't?--plus ST equals far too much of the same. But frankly, what you want least of all is a 'twisted' Morgan. They design the smoothest (read: tamest, most boring) transitions anywhere.
Coasteroid: While some folks from the most easterly heel of the Chicagoland area may find MiA more attractive, the same isn't true for city folk, the west burbs or most of the Loop. The masses will keep hitting SFGAM like they always have. Furthermore, the majority of the 'get-away' folk tend to head in the opposite direction (Wisconsin Dells or Rockford). For Detroiters, CP is the closest amusement park--'getting away' has nothing to do with it. Chicago is not a primary market for MiA and CF knows this.
UKNemesis: How many kids do you have? Both of my girls were either tall enough or had boarded their first hyper at age five. You might wanna double-check your English/Metric conversions there.
CoasterBob: I don't think anyone here is saying MiA couldn't use another marquee attraction. On the other hand, you can dump all the cash you want to into a park without necessarily making it better.
There's more to a hyper than 'whoopee, we have a hyper.' There's painting a hyper, retracking a hyper and maintaining the trains. This coaster would become the single most expensive maintenance item in MiA's budget. As for loads of air....wait until mid-season when maintenance starts choking up on the MCBR because the pre-station brake run is taking a beating. Are you sure you want a wheel-smoking, huge-trained Morgan? Don't be so sure.
BTW, the folks discussing infrastructure are also correct. Check any of the SF or CF annual reports or quarterly statements...in-park spending is every bit as critical as attendance. VF's secret for drawing $9-10 million cap budgets every three years on average: More concession stands! More! More! You think I'm kidding...
-'Playa
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Oh please. MIA the same distance from Chicago as SFGAm? Obviously you've never driven it. Just for fun, though, I plugged in "Gary, IN" (a stretch to call part of Chicago anyway, but it's closest to MIA) into Mapquest to see how far it is from SFGAm and MIA. While it's a full 70 miles to Great America, you're looking at more than *twice* that to Michigan's Adventure. From the city of Chicago itself, you're looking at three hours to MIA while SFGAm is only an hour tops. Do you honestly think people are goingn to travel that much further to Michigan when the closer park is one of the biggest in the nation?
As CoastaPlaya said, the tourism areas for Chicago residents are usually north into Wisconsin. Clearly there are some that go south (Indiana Beach serving that) and east (which MIA could grab), but not even the majority of residents take summer vacations like that, and you're splitting that between three areas. MIA absolutely does *not* have an $8 million population base to draw from, because SFGAm takes care of that quite well.
-Nate
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