Legitimate issue with Cedar Point claim

This is a funny thread. I doubt the general public in the Cleveland area really cares about some park they will most likely never visit.

I doubt Morey's Pier is going to care about what Cedar Point does in terms of advertising. They are too far from each other.

Mr. Ascoungh dos have a valid point. But really, who cares? Except for Coaster Enthusiasts.

I didn't think I was that unclear.

1. You were looking for a pissing match.

2. Fans of Cedar Point are not allowed to have opinions if those opinions are favorable to said park.

3. Enthusiasts who have a problem with Cedar Point, for whatever reason, will be red in anger if someone doesn't agree with them.

And who said Cedar Point was immune from criticism? Just because I think this particular argument is lame, doesn't mean I don't have my issues with Cedar Point. "Fanboys" are the biggest critics!

I guess hate is equally as blind.

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^ Of course only coaster enthusiasts care! That's why we're all here, right? ;)

You right! The guiness website does claim it is Gadv! Lets start another thread about it!

I dont get all the attacks against Cedar Point's marketing myself. Its marketing. Heck Knoebels claims their campgrounds are scenic, nothing scenic about the camp sites I have stayed on. Unless you consider a bathroom scenic.

Looking at the guinness site (http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com) It's SFGAdv that has the most rides (71).

The Guinness book was created to settle just these kinds of disputes. If you have a problem or think that Morey's should hold the title, Call them up and tell them to go talk to Morey's. Let the experts of obscure facts decide which park should hold the title.

Well, it did start a good fight!

I won't be taking sides in this by any means... but I found it funny how I was walking through the "Best Amusement Park On The Planet 7 Years In A Row" on Monday and not once did I care how many rides that park had and if a park 700 miles away (or however far it is to Morey's from Sandusky) was actually home to more. My main concern was having a great time, which I did. That seems to be my main concern at whatever park I'm at these days, regardless of how many rides or what kind of advertising campaign they use. I think that's why I try to shy away from the "enthusiast" crowd. When I go to an amusement park, I simply want to have fun... something that some enthusiasts (and I am not picking on anyone here at all) seem to have forgotten how to do.

Ray P. (amusement park fanboy in general)

I have a question. It's been said that folks in Cleveland don't care what happens at an amusement park in NJ and vice versa and that nobody but enthusiasts pay attention to what rides are in what park, etc.

But if it is true that hardly anybody cares than why would Cedar Point make it the centerpiece of their advertising?

And that's why I think it dilutes the amusement park experience. You'll have people claiming that this or that park sucks because they only have 10 coasters and nothing over 200 feet tall. Cedar Point, or maybe the bigger is better advertising mentality has created this image in people's minds that you have to have the most or the tallest to make the park worthwhile. It's pure garbage but try telling a hyperactive 14 year old that a 90 foot tall wooden coaster can be a lot of fun.

I'm even willing to claim that Cedar Point has done more to hurt the image of the roller coaster than anything. People ride Mean Streak and suddenly all wooden coasters are rough and painful. People ride Dragster and suddenly anything less than 400 feet is boring.

I just don't think that advertising based on meaningless records is really a good idea. It sets up a dangerous cycle of having to always go higher and faster to draw people's interest. What happened to better?

Juggalotus said:
Looking at the guinness site (http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com) It's SFGAdv that has the most rides (71).

But what is the record for the most OPERATING rides?

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millrace said:.
I just don't think that advertising based on meaningless records is really a good idea...What happened to better?

It's four hours south--where a park that hasn't had a -est worth mentioning keeps outdrawing them with a vastly superior selection of kiddie coasters and me-too waterslides. But try telling them coaster fanboys!

-CO

NOTE: Severe fecal impaction may render the above words highly debatable.

If you are enjoying this thread, please see the modern classic "Has Cedar Point Gotten A Little Too Full of Themselves?" thread!

http://www.coasterbuzz.com/forum.aspx?mode=thread&TopicID=41278&page=3

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Maybe they realized that their last attempt at a record breaker was a disaster. :)

SLFAKE said:

But what is the record for the most OPERATING rides?

Not Great Adventure!

maybe I'm wrong, but don't all of GAdv's rides operate, just never at the same time?

New sign spotted for TTD:
"World's Tallest and Fastest non-SBNO Coaster"

wait for it

there it is....the anti-CP fanboy response....the people who can't stand that someone might actually like Cedar Point and anyone who makes a joke about any other park must be a CP fanboy.

Okay... how about the record for the most concurrently operating number of rides?

Guinness doesn't get that specific, which is unfortunate because that seems to be the dispute we have now.

I realize that Guinness is not that specific... besides, my original question about "operating" rides was meant as a joke considering how SF is rather notorius for having rides just sitting there but not runnint them... sometimes for an entire season.

Oh brother,this is getting crazy.

The thing that still gets me though is the false advertising. Isn't there a law or something against that?

Somewhat off topic but in 1999(or something) Great Adventure advertised adding 25 rides (Medusa was the big addition). Was it really 25? How many of them are still there? And didn't some of them never operate?

Not sure of the details of the Great Adventure advertising for 1999.... but what I find interesting is how some parks adverstise that they have so many "Rides and attractions."

I forget what park it was, but I have seen "whack-a-mole" included in the list of "rides and attractions".