GL's Steel Venom probably also on it's way out....

Monday, February 5, 2007 8:58 PM
I dont get the camera thing

Timbers crew 08

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Monday, February 5, 2007 9:11 PM
^Um, his post pretty much explained it. I'll repost/quote it just for the sake of not making you go back a page.

"It was also noted that a thrill ride will have cameras installed to record your ride as a souvenir. My guess is that Dominator will get the cameras along with new seats." *** Edited 2/6/2007 2:11:40 AM UTC by P18***

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Monday, February 5, 2007 9:14 PM

rollergator said:
....but it's not about what WE want. it's about what CF feels is best for their bottom line.

Roller, I'm not entirely sure the two things you mention are mutually exclusive, as I can "want" with my wallet. This serves everyone involved.

But I'm probably just wishful thinking. I know that park in all likelyhood shouldn't be able to sustain the great lineup of coasters they had; if it had, GL would have built huge coasters 10 yrs ago. I had just hoped CF management would be able to work magic not worked before. Oh well.

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Monday, February 5, 2007 9:53 PM
crazy horse's avatar Imo, taking out steel venom is a mistake. The times that I rode it, it always had at least a 3-4 train wait.

Again, this is my oppinion but.....

How can it be a good move to take out a ride that moves butts through the gates? As many people have pointed out, sv is differant(vs. wicked twister) because of the holding break.

Do you think more people are going to visit the park now that there are less reasons to visit? I dont agree with this.

X flight I can see....but sv...no.


what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard.
Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it.
I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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Monday, February 5, 2007 10:28 PM
rollergator's avatar LOL, they don't EXPECT for more people to visit GL. They figure that if they can run GL as a smaller regional park and MAKE a little more money by reducing expenses, then that's better than...well, whatever happened last year (I imagine it wasn't great).

Doug, that's exactly what I'm saying. If *enough* people wanted to keep GL as a mega-park, then CF would have found it profitable enough to RUN it like one. not enough people did, and it really IS just "wishful thinking" that the park could remain as it was. Too expensive to operate for the receipts generated...not unlike our Conneaut scenario, only on a larger scale, and this park HAS the corporate backing to buy enough time to "figure out what works"...

But it IS fun to watch the kids say that a hyper would fix all of GL's problems by getting attendance up over 2M...just like MiA... ;)

*** Edited 2/6/2007 3:29:26 AM UTC by rollergator***

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Monday, February 5, 2007 10:52 PM
Honestly I know a park in MO that could take that impulse off GL's hands. I know we have the land and the $$$ to support it. :) It would look awesome where Festahaus is currently located in the Scandinavia section of the park.
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Tuesday, February 6, 2007 4:25 AM
Bill, that's almost the same thing we're saying in the Six Flags no re-entry thread: make more from fewer guests.

Why make $200k from 1 million guests when you can make $300k from only 900k guests? Lower operating expenses make that possible.


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Tuesday, February 6, 2007 6:12 AM
Does WOF have a inverted implus.

Timbers crew 08

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Tuesday, February 6, 2007 8:11 AM
^No they do not. They do not have a launched coaster at the park.
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Tuesday, February 6, 2007 9:06 AM
^ so theirs a small chance that WOF could get it.

Timbers crew 08

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Tuesday, February 6, 2007 9:22 AM
CPLady's avatar All this doom and gloom about CF possibly selling off GL land...I don't buy it, myself.

Using that land in the future for more family friendly rides? That makes more sense to me. Imagine a ride like Maverick going in to replace the two taken out?

I can't see it happening until the park is back into profit mode. In the meantime, I suspect they will be building up the one area that attracts the most visitors now. The water park.


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Tuesday, February 6, 2007 9:31 AM
coasterqueenTRN's avatar ^I agree with that as well, and it makes the most sense. That was also hinted around at Eastcoaster as far as the direction they want to go with Geauga Lake. At least that's what I got out of it. :)

-Tina

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Tuesday, February 6, 2007 1:56 PM

Coasterkid200 said:
^ so theirs a small chance that WOF could get it.
They just got Patriot. They probably won't see another major coaster for about another 4 years.
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Tuesday, February 6, 2007 2:03 PM
Yeah... to me, it seems it's down to Dorney or Carowinds (every other park got a new coaster last year or this year... except GL, but...). I still think the Boomerang could go to MiA.
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Tuesday, February 6, 2007 2:06 PM
crazy horse's avatar I think that dorney would be out of the running because they just got hydra 2 years ago.

Carowinds would make a good park.


what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard.
Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it.
I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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Tuesday, February 6, 2007 2:11 PM
sws's avatar I agree with the thought that GL is currently consolidating to lower costs, but then will use the land to add some family rides with lower operating expenses down the line. That just makes good business sense. I won't pretend to know how much one ride costs to maintain vs another; however for a small park it makes sense to be value oriented. After this consolidation phase passes and debt is paid off, I would expect GL to start a more gradual expansion once again.
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Tuesday, February 6, 2007 2:18 PM
Maybe they'll move Hydra to CFPKI and add SV in its place.

After that, they can move the Villain to CP for no apparent reason and in it's place put the Toika, Witches Wheel, Round-Up, Food Area and a functioning Dodgem that won't double for some stupid halloween thing.

Next, I'd like to have sharks with frickin' lasers attached to their heads!
;)


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Tuesday, February 6, 2007 2:31 PM
sws's avatar FLYINGSCOOTER said:Next, I'd like to have sharks with frickin' lasers attached to their heads!

COOL! Now that sounds like a ride I'd be willing to stand in line waiting for. :) Too bad it's probably going to end up at MiA with everything else. ;)

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Tuesday, February 6, 2007 2:35 PM

crazy horse said:
I think that dorney would be out of the running because they just got hydra 2 years ago.

True, but Dorney operates in a much bigger market- one a lot more competitive than the market that Worlds of Fun operates in. Dorney has received more new rides in the past and I see that continuing to be the case.

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Tuesday, February 6, 2007 3:23 PM
I say they should ship it off to an east coast park as the midwest seems to be the only location currently home to the impulse with V2 @ SFGRAM,WT @ CP & SV @ VF.

They could market the ride as a new experience never before seen at a park such as Dorney,KD or Carowinds...of course it's up to the top brass at CF to decide & not any of us so until we find out for certain where it's going it's all just speculation at this point in time.

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