GL's Steel Venom probably also on it's way out....

Thursday, February 8, 2007 10:27 AM
Potential location? I assume you mean the old skyscraper plot?...

...that assumes they don't already have other plans for that land which were made before the decision to move Steel Venom was made, now wouldn't it? ;)

Edit: typo
*** Edited 2/8/2007 3:30:03 PM UTC by dannerman***


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Thursday, February 8, 2007 10:33 AM
I was wondering when someone would suggest SV going to Wonderland.

Looking at the list of revenues a few pages back, Canada's Wonderland is the only park in the top 5 not getting any investment this year (well at least nothing announced, which leads one to belive it's nothing major). This will make two years in a row with no new rides.

There must be something significant planned for '08 at Wonderland, and SV could be a huge win for this park.

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Thursday, February 8, 2007 2:13 PM
^ I agree. Here's a lil something too look at.

Under Paramount:

1994 - FX Theatre Shows.
1995 - Top Gun
1996 - Xtreme Skyflyer
1997 - Drop Zone; Speedcity Raceway
1998 - Kidzville
1999 - The Fly
2000 - Cliffhanger; Scooby Doo's Haunted Mansion
2001 - Silver Streak; Shockwave; Kiddie Rides.
2002 - Psyclone/Splash Works Additions
2003 - Sledgehammer/Nick Central
2004 - Tomb Raider
2005 - Italian Job
2006 - Stunt show which is now gone.

Under Cedar Fair:

2007 - Nothing Major
2008 - Steel Venom Would be Wicked Nice for CW.


And whats really sad is the last MAJOR coaster addition we've gotten was Top Gun in 95 and basically all the rest came before then because after 95 all we got was The Fly(Wild Mouse), Silver Streak(Junior SLC), Tomb Raider(Volare), and IJ:ST(Premier LIM) and even those coasters are not what would classify as a real thrill seeking major ride. I hate the hole "Oh Canadians are dumb lets just put a little coaster and they won't know the difference" because seriously.. TOP GUN 1995 thats almost 11 years without something as big as an SLC(Which also sucks, and Top Gun ain't in very good condition if I must say so myself)

What i heard was Tomb Raider was just there... IJST was added to tie guests over THEN there was supposed to be some major coaster like an Intamin or B&M added between 08-2010.


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Thursday, February 8, 2007 2:32 PM
Am I alone in thinking that Italian Job was a major addition to the park? It sure seemed pretty big at PKI.
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Thursday, February 8, 2007 2:58 PM
No... I would agree that IJ was a major addition. And while we in this coaster world might not agree, it was very well received and talked about by many, many guests. At Cedar Point the topic of coversation in many queue lines was "Have you been on Dragster yet?" while at Wonderland everyone was wondering if you'd been on Italian Job. Hardly comparable in our eyes, but to the guests, it was the big one to get on.

Also, while I personally don't like the ride, Tomb Raider (Volare) was met with a 30% attendance increase in it's first year. The first marketable coaster added to the park in years, and bang- an attendance record.

IJ carried over last year as a "new" ride because many people couldn't ride it in it's first year (long lines everyday), but the lack of new ride in 2006 was commented on by many guests. 2007 might be a bit of a struggle for them with nothing new again.

Let's see a floorless B&M between IJ and Sledgehammer, or GL's Steel Venom in between Vortex and Jet Scream. Also, Splash Works needs some love. They lost 4 slides (torn down) at the beginning of last year and with nothing to replace them, the lines and crowds were unbelievable in 2006.

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Thursday, February 8, 2007 3:16 PM
matt.'s avatar

Ѕіx Flαgѕ Đαrієή Ĺαkє said:
I hate the hole "Oh Canadians are dumb lets just put a little coaster and they won't know the difference"

But hey.....think of how good that quote would look in the park's next press release.

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Thursday, February 8, 2007 3:23 PM
I agree PCWcoasterboy. I liked how you brought up a few points some people here tend to not think about so much or lose sometimes, how the GP sees/recieves attractions such as IJST compared to some here who think its something like a "hold-you-over-attraction", and that's what really counts. *** Edited 2/8/2007 8:23:53 PM UTC by P18***
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Thursday, February 8, 2007 4:08 PM
No, I do think IJ was fun(I've rode it) but you all know what I mean by it not being major, atleast I hope so. Yes, It's nice for the families(My MOM&DAD enjoyed it) but, it's nothing compared to the other Premier coasters(JJ, Polty, FOF, Mr.Freeze, Chiller, etc.) Hell, any coaster that comes into PCW is major though, our tallest coaster is a boomerang and no matter what the park puts in, IT WILL get the attendance because there's no Kingda Ka's here to make the other rides seem more crappy and I know that's true because all of the ORIGINAL rides that opened with the park are still just as busy and get high ridership just the same as the ones added in the 2000's do. I was just saying MAJOR as in over the height of a boomerang, Inversions, high speed, something to cater to the thrill seekers is what PCW needs.
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Thursday, February 8, 2007 5:13 PM
To my way of thinking, wouldn't Canada's Wonderland be better off with a big, new, thrilling coaster, rather than SV? I mean, it has got to be cheap for CF to move (especially compared to X-Flight/Firehawk). As pointed out above, it's been some time since the park received a major coaster, so I don't think SV would fit the bill for that task. Now something like Dominator...
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Thursday, February 8, 2007 5:26 PM
While moving Steel Venom itself may be cheap, you're forgetting that the infrastructure required may be equally or perhaps even more complex than X-Flight, given that most parks need dedicated power lines for these things.
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Thursday, February 8, 2007 5:38 PM
Moving Sv will be the cheapest part. They have to fix the LIM's and paint it. When did Canada's Wonderland get their last coaster.

Timbers crew 08

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Thursday, February 8, 2007 6:32 PM
matt.'s avatar I bet www.rcdb.com knows.
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Thursday, February 8, 2007 6:59 PM
I find it surprising the amount of coaster enthusiasts who post on forums like this who have no knowledge of a site like RCDB, or are too lazy to check it when the info they are looking for is right there. It's like THE coaster encyclopedia/handbook on the net.
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Thursday, February 8, 2007 8:38 PM
I can't think of know one on Coasterbuzz who doesnt know about www.rcdb.com .

. *** Edited 2/9/2007 1:53:18 AM UTC by Coasterkid200***


Timbers crew 08

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Thursday, February 8, 2007 8:43 PM
sws's avatar Coasterkid200 said:
I can't think of know on Coasterbuzz who doesnt know about
www.rcdb.com .

Please tell me that English is not your native language.

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Thursday, February 8, 2007 8:57 PM
My Bad. Lets get back to topic.

Timbers crew 08

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Thursday, February 8, 2007 11:17 PM

Arson said:
To my way of thinking, wouldn't Canada's Wonderland be better off with a big, new, thrilling coaster, rather than SV? I mean, it has got to be cheap for CF to move (especially compared to X-Flight/Firehawk). As pointed out above, it's been some time since the park received a major coaster, so I don't think SV would fit the bill for that task. Now something like Dominator...

CW is certainly long overdue for a major coaster. Since it takes some time to plan and design these things, it's only logical for Cedar Fair to slap SV down there as a stop-gap measure, to tide the locals over until a brand new, significant coaster can be installed. It's the same tactic they just employed with X-Flight...er, Firehawk, at KI.

CW would be my number one guess where SV will end up going, with Dorney a close number two.

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Friday, February 9, 2007 7:06 AM

Coasterkid200 said:
I can't think of know one on Coasterbuzz who doesnt know about www.rcdb.com .

First of all, it's no one. Second of all, just a few post's up you were asking when the last coaster was added to CWo and if you were still too lazy to go up a bit more you would see a nice big chart I made listing 2005 as the last year Wonderland got a coaster which, incase your STILL too lazy to check is named: Italian Job: Stunt Track. If you want to know more "google" it on RCDB since you "KNOW" about it so much;)

and ^ Yes, I also think CWo would be a GREAT home for SV, and NOT just because it's close to me.. because if that was the case, Geauga is only an extra 3 hour drive from me than CWo is and Dorney is about 4 (If it does end up going to Dorney). Hell, it could be SO marketable with the Ontarians:

- Tallest coaster in the park
- Fastest coaster in Canada
- Tallest coaster in Canada
- Only Impulse coaster in Canada
- First of it's kind in Canada(and hell, it was also the first of it's kind in America and I hope CF doesn't make that a reason why CWo wouldn't be a good home for it).

I could see it now: "Come ride Canada's Tallest, Fastest and most Thrill coaster, ___Hawk, only here at Canada's Wonderland"



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Friday, February 9, 2007 7:19 AM
^ actually, to nit-pick, it's anyone not no one. as in "I can't think of anyone on Coasterbuzz..." ;)
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Friday, February 9, 2007 8:50 AM
^How much you charj for them thar inglisH lizzonz?
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