Cedar Point's Blog is teasing us!
I've since fixed it so that it says what I wanted it to say.
Look at the footers of the Maverick flat ride that someone linked to before. The Point is I think the only Cedar Fair park without some variation on a Top Spin, so why not that linked ride?
One of those, maybe some other high-thrills, low-impact flat, a few interactive play areas for the kids, and a mid-sized coaster ... that's a LOT of concrete, a LOT of sitework, and it's got to be a lot cheaper to accomplish all of that over two off-seasons.
The tunnel vision on this subject is incredible ...
That footer, and the anchoring bolts sticking out of it are massive.
Maybe I just have really bad eyesight, but I don't see enough in that picture to even remotely estimate the size of the footer.
I am hoping for a bunch of smaller attractions with one major, although not 500 ft. major, attraction to be the star. How about a thrilling flat (thinking Top Spin or something never before seen), a family flat or two, a family coaster (water coaster or spinning coaster) and then to top it all off a 250 ft. Dive Machine with mulitple inversions that blows Sheikra away?
Probably not going to happen, especially all at once. But it seems like a much better way to spend their money than blowing it on a single attraction that would alienate a bunch of riders. There are a whole bunch of people that wouldn't touch a 450+ ft. looper, especially families!
As far as a woodie is concerned, I wouldn't mind one of those either. But I stick by my opinion, which I've stated several times before, that I'd like to see them tear down MS and put up a GCI dueler in that area with a jr. woodie thrown into the mix as well (think Stampida). I'll keep dreaming of that, while some of you keep dreaming of your 500 ft., 15 inversion, 2 mile long, bankrupty inducing, vomit comet. Sweet dreams! :)
*** Edited 3/7/2006 1:01:23 AM UTC by Incidentalist***
Why is making a huge coaster such a bad thing? This is my first post, but I read this site daily. I would do about anything to ride TTD or Ka. My friends were easily persuaded to accompany me in May to CP after finals(from Florida, USF pride!). Nobody wanted to go to IOA or USF....those parks lack serious thrills.
For example Dr. Doom's free-fall. I found that ride to be an incredibly watered down Power-Tower. Dueling Dragons is the only first class ride at that park. Spider-Man has no replay value and Hulk I didn't feel was anything special.
All I read on this forum is hatred of huge coasters. Yeah the dragster has had problems(it was down july 2, 2003 when i was at CP). For me thats what makes Sheikra weak. It's drop seems much less intense than MF and AC...if you are going to build a one trick pony(nothing else on Sheikra is special) at least make it taller than most coasters!
I rambled a bit, I have been wanting to post for awhile now and I finally decided so sorry if I bored you. But here is to hoping CP doesn't build a Dive machine.
You yourself admitted that you weren't in the know early on in this thread. That shows that you DO NOT know what is coming. Yet you are one of the few still beating the drum of the 500 footer for some reason. I have yet to see anyone come up with any argument of why this would be a good investment for any park, much less CP.
Let me first say that I also don't know and I really don't care what they end up getting as I'll get back to CP at some point regardless of if they ever add anything new. A dive machine isn't even at the top of my list as I'd prefer to see a quality woodie, spinner or water coaster installed. But it does make more sense as a major attraction than a 500 footer. Can't see how that one has you rolling on the floor, other then the fact that your reputation precedes you.
And since it's been almost 4 years and you've yet to track down one of the elusive photos, I'll provide one for you. Enjoy!
http://www.rcdb.com/ig1412.htm?picture=12
*** Edited 3/7/2006 1:41:35 AM UTC by Incidentalist***
Sorry, but I'd take most mid-sized B&Ms (including Sheikra) over the three big CP Intamins anyday. And I'd take most small CCI/GCIs over almost any record breaker. Why? Cause it's not about bigger being better. Why is Phantom's Revenge more thrilling than any ride at CP?
Wood would be good too....
Pithy enough.
Tom
Let's see, they could build a $50 Million dollar coaster and not have to pay one cent to advertise it, which they still would anyway.
Or they could invest that money in an attempt to bring in families to fill their $150/night hotels with something new for everbody. But then they'd have to spend THOUSANDS on ad compaigns.
I'm no good at math, which one makes more sense/cents?
It's too bad that all that free advertising they got for MF and TTD has worn off already that they need some more of it. I myself was almost forgetting the place even existed. ;)
*** Edited 3/7/2006 2:10:21 AM UTC by Incidentalist***
Brian Noble said:
That footer, and the anchoring bolts sticking out of it are massive.Maybe I just have really bad eyesight, but I don't see enough in that picture to even remotely estimate the size of the footer.
Brian, the evidence is all over the place. There's tracks in the dirt on top. If they're from a truck or a tractor, it doesn't make much of a difference, it still places the size of a tire relative to the footer. The most telling thing is directly to the right, just off the footer, there are 4-5 footprints in the mud. That shows that you're looking at a pretty massive footer.
Thank you Incidentalist for saying exactly what I said 3 posts later and claiming it for your own. There are like 10 people around here who all have hit on the idea of a "total package" of flats and medium sized coasters, and everyone's claiming that it's their own wonderful, stupendous, show-stopping idea. You're not the only one, and I'm not ... Moosh said it in this thread before anyone else did, and I said it in threads before that, and I'm sure Moosh said it before that, etc. etc.
And whoever it was that said height is like a drug, you're right, but fortunately, once you realize that height can only take you so "high" (bad pun, almost gator worthy!) you start to appreciate the power more than the height, and there are many more in the mid-sized category that have power (Talon, Fire Dragon, Magnum, Nitro [shut up LG!]) than in the super-sized category. If 450' doesn't satisfy you, what makes you think 500 would?
CP doesn't care who fills their rooms, as long as they are full. Yes, they want to appeal to families, and most families have teenagers as well as kids.
No one knows what Maverick is, and I certainly don't either - but your logic is weak.
Tom
Thom25 said:
CP doesn't care who fills their rooms, as long as they are full.
Umm...don't you have to be 21 to get a room at most hotels? And what teenagers do you know that have enough money to get a hotel room for a couple nights? Families are where the money's at, and I'm sure CP has realized that.
--Erich
I honestly don't follow the logic of other posters who say - look at the size of the footers (they are huge), followed by, family rides and mid sized coasters is what CP is getting? Sorry, this is CP. Huge footers two years in advance, after 4 years of waiting leads me to only one conclusion (sorry).
Tom
And if you paid attention to my sig, you would know that I've been around since 1999...obviously being around that long, I've never even heard of rcbd...
[edit] That's actually not accurate with regards to Cedar Point hotels. They do require those reserving the rooms to be 21. I honestly think that they cost themselves bookings because of this, but maybe they think it helps cut down on the number of problems by having this policy too.
*** Edited 3/7/2006 3:17:56 AM UTC by CPgenius***
CPgenius said:
Those not commenting on this subject speaks volumes...(I/E those "in the know" aren't dismissing it as a an absurd work of fiction)
That was the post I was referring to. Seems to me like you weren't including yourself as "in the know".
I know you've been around for a long time, but you mentioned that you hadn't seen pictures of the current looping record holder. It's not like they're hard to find and they have decent pictures of the restraints.
That's all.
Well, the obvious ones "in the know" about happenings at CP are Jeff and Walt. I don't think we've seen them post in this thread yet. Although Jeff has said stuff during the Podcast, he hasn't felt the need to ridicule the 500 footer rumor in this thread.
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