Cedar Fair 2003 - CoasterBuzz

WC448S, Let me remind you that not all people reading these boards are teenagers like yourself, and that some, yes it is true actually know what goes on behind closed doors. The reason they don't prove it is, well they don't feel they have too. They give you insight and if you don't take it - well that's no skin off their nose. I'll let you in on a secret though, they aren't too far off with Falcon.

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Yes yes, I can understand that. But time will tell. I will say nothing further on the subject.

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Pointman I agree with you, I would imagine that two of the other parks (not CP & KBF or DP) will be getting coasters in 2003.

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PointMan said:
"CP will not get a coaster in 2003. No way, it ain't gonna happen. Get over it."

I've heard the exact opposite. Which shows that we just won't know until the press release comes out.

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*** This post was edited by Gemini on 4/22/2002. ***

Gemini said:
I've heard the exact opposite. Which shows that we just won't know until the press release comes out.

Or until someone spills the beans...

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*** This post was edited by Swoosh on 4/22/2002. ***

I've cut the cheese...is that like spilling the beans?

Matthew - in a silly mood today

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2002 - the year of IB's LoCoSuMo!!

Hey, what type of coaster should Cedar Point get?

Flying or mouse if they get one in 2003.

Mamoosh said:

I've cut the cheese...is that like spilling the beans?

Mamoosh, yeah it's kind of like cutting the cheese, only it's a tad bit more runny. ;) LOL
Also I think Cedar Point should get a flyer so that the other parks in the chain can get one....we all know that pampered flag ships get the toys first ;)

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Here's where Jeff, much to the chagrin of ride managers at every other park in the chain will point out that Cedar Point isn't "pampered" ;)

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Cedar Point is not pampered, it is a park that started at the bottom and worked up on its own. It ididn't get three monsters over night. Cedar Point has worked its way from Senic Railway in 1912 which made riders laugh to Millenium Force in 2000 which made riders scream. Compare that to how long Valleyfair has been in the buisness and you'll see a big difference in the parks' qualities. You wont find top notch park that offer the full package over night. There is no way it will happen, even it this so called mega park opened in Mississippi with 8-14 amazing coasters, it'll take more than just metal monsters and wooden beast to make that park a true winner like Cedar Point. I do agree that out of all the areas for Cedar Point to grow on it would either be more high quality family attractions or add some thrill to the water park(I'd rather see a Master Blaster at Soak City for 2003 than a new monster on Cedar Point Midway.)

Oops, did I say that, I meant, um, I meant something else. ;)

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knotts and cedar point are the 2 largest CF parks in terms of attendence. they deserve to be rewarded, but knotts and mia adventure need to have a few more rides. knotts only has 5 operating roller coasters (soon to be 6), and 2 of those are family coasters and kiddie coasters. the best thing to do for knotts would be to make it into a vacation destination where people would spend 2 or 3 days (like a big ski resort). soak city was one big step into accomplishing this, but they need to expand their theme park and hotel (it should have about 600 rooms later on when knotts is bigger). they really need more to do, especially on a weekday when there are no lines and everything has been done twice by 2pm. i say add a new, high tech dark ride in Kindom of the dinosaurs spot in late 2003, expand the park in late 2004 with an inverted coaster and a new land. in 2005 they can build a few new flats, and in 2006 they can get a hyper coaster. knotts should also expand soak city (only 13 acres as of now- has about 12 acres to expand into.

While KBF has a lot of potential, it has to be remembered that it's open year-round. Year-round operation=year round staffing=year round expenses.

So if KBF draws a few more people than CP, CP was far more profitable due to its less expensive, shorter season. And let's not even bring up the extra profits from the resorts and campgrounds, shall we?

Then of course, there was the unfortunate drag it made on CF's bottom line after 9/11. Hopefully, we won't see that happen again.

Of course, the 'little park that could' will always be VF--at least until MA gets their attendance up around 750K or more. It draws 1 million+ attendance every year with an operating season 1-2 months shorter than any of its larger brethen. You gotta wonder what they've been saving up for the last couple seasons...

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*** This post was edited by CoastaPlaya on 4/23/2002. ***

MiAdventure has been saving up for:

1. A B&M HYPERCOASTER

or

2. A B&M INVERTED

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Take it from a Michigan's Adventure fan, our park kicks butt!!!

MichigansAdventureFan,

What are you talking about? You're park just got one of the biggest expansions in its history. Pass whatever you've been smoking because it must be pretty strong stuff.

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We will most likely get a hyper be fore an B&M invert. But I doubt that it would be an B&M (not htat I would mind if it was). I would like to see a smaller Giovanola hyper twister at Michigans Adventure.

MIA fan, it's always fun to dream, but I want you to remember that the only reason CFLP bought the park is so Six Flags wouldn't. They have already said that they wished they had bought Geauga Lake when they had a chance so that they wouldn't have been any competition locally for CP. So if you think MIA is going to become another Dorney Park or Worlds of Fun, I would say guess again. This park may have gotten a large expansion this year, but that is how CFLP always acts the first year of a park being in the chain. I guarantee that the park will be put on the back burner, and it will be lucky to ever get the hyper. What might bring it is a drastic increase in attendance, so go get all of your friends and the people in your town and county to go.

CPlaya, you are exactly correct with your statement.

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I would have to disagree. A chain does not purchase a park and expect it to gain money if the park does not add anything (especially Cedar Fair L.P). You can not have any attendance increase if you don't revamp the parks attractions and add new attractions. Plus Jourden's daughter runs Michignas Adventure and I doubt she would let the park slide on to the back burner to a certain extent. Another thing if you want people from lower Michigan to come to the park more then you need attractions that will bring them there.

One final thought: Jourden's "dream," which I read a article that stated that it was part of the agreement in buying the park, that they would build the 215 tall coaster he planed before the purchase of the park. There was also zoning permits to build a 215 ft. tall atraction.

Cedar Fair knows that making a park better will increase attendence and make people happy.