Where do you think Shockwave should go?
Iron Dragon you have no clue. You never have understood anything about SFAW! SFAW will not get ride or either the Red Barn or the Southern Star amphitheater. They both bring in money, and lots of it. The area around the Wave pool is not as large as you might think it is.
Everbody says cover the lagoon and put a coaster on top of it. Yes maybe but the Astroway goes over the lagoon, and the lagoon seats around the lagoon sin't that large an area. I wouldn't get id of the Astoway either, only a few Von Roll skylifts left in parks.
Shockwave is too large to fit in AW. Ok lets remove 2 coasters for one headbanger. No don't think so. Chuck Hendrix has states no more Used rides for SFAW. He means it. Jazzland might be an option, due to:
A. Got the land for a Cpaster that big.
B. SF is going to spend money on it to Franchise it.
C. Used coasters already being installed there.
D. Has only a few coasters.
E. Could use a Multi inversion coaster.
F. Might not complain about recieving it.
SFAW doesn't need any more looping coaster. SFAW needs a coaster with airtime, or smaller coasters like a V2, Deja View. Six Flags mexico might want Shockwave as well.
I think we should start to rule out possibilites. It's a multiple choice questions, you just haev more than four answers. You can rule out:
Magic Mountain, Great America, St. Louis, Worlds of Adventure (they have Batman).
That's just a start, I will finsih my list when I get back.
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What is ruling Stl. out? Ninja? GAm also had a 4 inversion coaster operating with Shockwave. The parks I think are likely to get Shockwave are SFNO, SFAW, SFKK, and SFSTl (in that order). I'd add SFWoA to the list, but it looks like SF wants the best for one of the future "stars of the chain".
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We've gone over this several times why SFAW and SFKK are unlikely to be contenders for a ride this big. They have no space for the blasted thing, yet everyone's pretty insistant aren't they?
Also, Monroe you are a damn fool if you honestly believe Astroworld is going to level money-making aspects of the park like Waterworld, Southern Star, and the picnic grounds to add a new coaster. There's simply no way. Astroworld doesn't own that grassy are behind Waterworld's wave pool either, the only additional land the park really owns is a narrow strip to the west of TX Cyclone where the car dealership sits. You can put something big there, but not something pre-fabricated like Shockwave. You are probably one of maybe five people in Houston that really wants that awful ride.
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Actaully, he's probably one of only ten or so people in Houston who even know what that ride is, so your statistic is misleading.
I think Jazzland is a good bet. As for Six Flags not putting in two large, multi-looping, full circuit coasters in one tear, who said it'll be up and runing by the start of next season. My bet is thta wherever it goes, it will sit in a boneyard or wharehouse for a year befor it gets put up. Most of the steel track for next year's larger coasters is aready made, while Shock Wave is still about halfway intact. This leads me to believe that there's not quite enough time to get it down, moved, and re-assembled by April.
(SF)Great American said:
Actaully, he's probably one of only ten or so people in Houston who even know what that ride is, so your statistic is misleading.
Only 10 people in Houston know what Shockwave is? Excuse me? We are not the dumb hicks you think we are. I think you are the one making misleading comments here. I think you might be surprised.
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*** This post was edited by mdrcoast on 10/6/2002. ***
mdrcoast,
Don't get your panties in a bunch...I can safely guess that (SF)Great American meant that outside of the enthusias(s)t community, noone knows Shockwave from Tidal Wave.
I was at a wedding last night and I was talking to someone about rollercoasters and I mentioned some other rides that I have been on and the person had no clue about 50% of the rides I was talking about ...
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Thanks Great America!
MagnumForce said:
Actually I think the State owns SFKK's parking lot. It is the state fairgrounds right there. SFKK is the Midway during the fair.
Another thing being so close to the Airport would the almost 200 foot Shockwave be too tall?
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All I need is 4.5 million bucks and a half a mile long sliver of land and maybe someone could build me my very own Shivering Timbers.
Titan at SFoT is like a mile and a half from one of the busiest airports in the world, DFW.
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RIP Shockwave
No, it's not. It's over 10 miles between Six Flags Over Texas and DFW airport. It's also less than 1 mile between Kentucky Kingdom and Louisville International. Plug the addresses into Mapquest and see for yourself. When people say SFKK is adjacent to the airport, this is literally true. Chang is one of the first things you see as your plane taxis around.
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It's the suffering parks (in terms of attendance) that need new rides, which is why SFGAdv and SFoT are both getting major rides this year. Additionally, SFMM and SFGAm are getting new rides because (a) past attendance has justified it and (b) Six Flags feels it's necessary in order to retain crowd levels.
What it all comes down to is that an attendance loss at a smaller park (SFA, SFAw, etc) won't hurt the chain nearly as much as an attendance loss at one of the big four (which, collectively, make up 1/3 of the chain's revenue). Therefore, spending at the major parks is more justified than at the smaller ones that are performing just fine.
How many times does this have to be explained before people get it?
-Nate
coasterdude318 said:
How many times does this have to be explained before people get it?
-Nate
Well, maybe you would get it if you lived near a park that looks shabby. SFAW is number 5 on the revenue list. Attendance dropped this year for some reason other than new capital I am sure. Your all right I guess. Some parks can go years and years with no new capital and it does not affect the Six Flags bottom line at all.
If you will excuse me, I am going to go blow $20.00 for 4 shares of Six Flags stock.
I am sure you all must be right. Everything looks great for Six Flags future.
While I'm unable to find the most recent list of most popular amusement parks in the US, I found the one from 2000 and SFAW is nowhere near the top of the Six Flags parks. As far as I know, that hasn't really changed.
Now, I realize numbers through the gate doesn't necessarily equal revenue, but with SFAW at number nine on the list (and knowing SFWoA's attendance has grown greatly since 2000), I have an extremely difficult time believing SFAW is the fifth biggest money maker in the chain, even with their successful pass sales.
Six Flags is happy with where Astroworld was last year and, apparently, has reason to believe people will continue to visit this year. Astroworld's pass sales reflect that people desire to visit the park, so why should Six Flags spend millions on a park that is performing well? It's the big parks (and those with competition) that need investments. You may feel that Astroworld "deserves" something, in which case you should just visit another park until that happens.
-Nate
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