Where do you think Shockwave should go?
J.C. said:
What about SFOT? Take out the bobsled and put it there-
That's actually not a half bad idea. La Vibora is right by the parking lot. Shockwave, being a parking lot coaster would fit right at home. Of course it would have to get a name change, since there already is a Shockwave there. Besides, didnt Six Flags Inc. or whatever it is called say that SFOT, SFGAm, SFMM, and SFGAdv where all getting a new coaster? And well we all know what SFGAm and SFGAdv are getting.
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Joe Carroll said:
Just an educated guess...SFKK
They need a ride.
It's close to Chicago - low transportation costs, more time to work on it & less in transit.
It would be a massivly impressive addition to their skyline.
It's been a parking lot coaster once before. They can do it again, if it doesn't fit.
One little hitch, though, SFKK doesn't own their parking lot. It's operated by the city (ever wonder why it's only $3 to park there?). Same scenario at SFAW, city owns the parking lot (though it bumped up from $5 to $7 to park this year because of the blasted new Reliant Stadium).
Kentucky Kingdom could definitely use another steel coaster, but that park has the weirdest layout of any Six Flags and it's going to be difficult squeezing ANYTHING else large in, let alone something not designed for the place.
Also, the people who keep insisting the ride's going to Astroworld really have their heads up their butt if they can't even grasp the concept that it wouldn't fit if we wanted it (which we emphatically dont). The amount of remodelling necessary to squeeze Shockwave into Astroworld is just preposterous: knock out half a dozen buildings and move a bunch of other rides around including other coasters. It'd be so expensive there's no real point.
lets see where do you think shockwave should go?
i personaly think it should head directly to a junk yard if is not reprofiled. other than that i realy dont care where the blue beast goes.
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Where do I think Shockwave should go? Well, personally I think it should be melted down and then re-formed into basic household appliances or silverware or something... maybe it'd do somebody some good then, and it'd probably be more profitable than running and/or possibly fixing it.
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Actually I think the State owns SFKK's parking lot. It is the state fairgrounds right there. SFKK is the Midway during the fair.
Another thing being so close to the Airport would the almost 200 foot Shockwave be too tall?
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BBSpeed26 said:
Where do I think Shockwave should go? Well, personally I think it should be melted down and then re-formed into basic household appliances or silverware or something... maybe it'd do somebody some good then, and it'd probably be more profitable than running and/or possibly fixing it.
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There's no problem about the roughness as long as the reporifle the rdie when it gets rebuilt. Some Parks don't really know that a steel coaster needs to be fixed and repaired (even B&Ms do other wise they go the same way) every few years. I see that their B&M Stadn Up has fallen into problems with roughness. This wasn't a case before. Steel coasters don't always stay smooth.
Also a 180 foot tall coaster with 7 loops seems to be a valuable asset to Six Flags they will relocate it and rebuild it and it will probally most likely run smoother too after being rebuilt. Six Flags seems to like to build Vekoma Hang and Bangs (SLC) alot, which can be just as bad or not worse than Shockwave. To Six Flags it a great selling item and will be better to rebuild than melt down the ride. The company can't really afford to tear down and melt down a big ride which could bring big money to one of their parks don't make enough or is looking for a good looping ride. Anyway not all parks can always afford B&M's, they must have to go with a cheaper coaster type or a cheaper company like Vekoma.
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Alright, the time has come....SINCE the general consensus is that SW will go somewhere, let's do SF a *favor* and let them know what they can do to "move on" and make this into a good coaster....it's going to be taken down in sections, since UPS ground can't ship it in one piece, LOL. So, what SECTIONS of track should be melted down and replaced?
My votes go to the "flat turn" between the vertical loops, and to the "neckbreaker", the bad HOP into the midcourse.....remove these, replace them with properly banked track, and the ride becomes much more enjoyable IMO, with way fewer complaints....sure, there's expense involved, but it's kind of like having a car engine "torn down" anyway...might as well do some "preventative maintenance" while you're under the hood, so to speak....
Give The Small Independent parks some love! I would love to see a new coaster going to Lake Winnie! All they have is a 75 foot out and back woodie called "Cannon Ball" and a wild mouse called "Wild Thing". I bet that no one here has ever been there besides me butr its a great lil park that needs some new thrills.
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There's no way Lake Winnie, or any other small park, could ever even dream of affording Shockwave (and, IMO, that would be a nightmare. ;-) ). Not to mention Shockwave's awkward, huge footprint.
-Nate
Six Flags does not own Kentucky Kingdom's lot, it's owned by the city which has a convention center in the same complex. Trust me, if Six Flags had their say they would be charging $8+ to park like at most of their properties. Instead it's $3 to park, but no parking passes are available. Could they cut a deal with the city to build over some of the lot? Maybe, but it'd be costly and very unlikely. There's also the height issue - SFKK is closest to any airport of any park in the chain, literally right next door. Chang is already around 155', would they allow a taller structure? Realisticly you should never have planes come buzzing the park below 300', but there could be height restrictions in place as a formality (anyone know?)
I haven't seen any survey markers or any indication that anything has been planned for Houston either, when I was down at the park yesterday. I got the impression from the employees that they honestly haven't a clue what's going on (I'm not talking about ride ops, a little higher in the chain - though I'll grant that if they KNEW Shockwave was coming here they'd be too disappointed to want to talk about it). Based upon how much work would need to be done to find land at Astroworld (like removing Batman The Escape and maybe Ultra Twister, Mt Asbestos, the greenhouse, maintenance shed, etc etc...) I still can't believe it's heading this way.
rollergator said:
So, what SECTIONS of track should be melted down and replaced?
My votes go to the "flat turn" between the vertical loops, and to the "neckbreaker", the bad HOP into the midcourse.....remove these, replace them with properly banked track, and the ride becomes much more enjoyable IMO, with way fewer complaints....sure, there's expense involved, but it's kind of like having a car engine "torn down" anyway...might as well do some "preventative maintenance" while you're under the hood, so to speak....
Agreed, agreed, and agreed. The banking on the 90 degree left turn between loop 1 and 2 is nasty (like many Arrow transitions), and the turn into the mcbr should, in my opinion, be made (as others have also mentioned on coaster forums) into a 270 degree clockwise (turn right) ascending helix to trim off some of that speed.
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Ahh,so someone finally agree's with me & believes that there's some sort of favortism game being played by SF corporate with regards to certain parks(cough SFMM,SFGRADV cough) and would like to see something done about it as well.
As for SW we can't be sure just yet where it's gonna go or when it's gonna get there,knowing SF's history with defunct rides my money is still on it just rusting away in SFGRAM's bonyard for at least a year or more.
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