What's Next for Valleyfair!

Honestly? Everything he's said has checked out (parks will tout high numbers of capacity, but never acheive them, regardless how wonderful WF!'s staff may or may not be) and you're the only one sounding threatened. So.. sorry pal. *Shrugs*

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I'm not an enthusiast. I just play one on message boards.

Still don't buy it, Playa.

Looking at CP's site, they say WT has a theoretical of 1,210pph. The op I talked to on the Wed before SRM said they get about 850 - 900pph usually (there wasn't even a line when I rode though, so I couldn't tell how fast they'd get them out).

Also, he said that the mandatory 1min cooldown was in effect on that ride as well (as it was on SFGAm's V2).

I'm assuming (naughty me, I know) that Steel Venom has the same one minute cooldown period. Given SFGAm's (remember, they're the "same ride") V2 ride cycle at just about 60 seconds launch to park, that means they can send out maximum of 30 trains in one hour.

If every single seat were filled, that would be 30 (trains) multiplied by 28 (riders per train) in one hour. Or a grand total of 840pph. Over 110pph short of the listed capacity, and that's if they hit 60sec interval each and every time.

Now do you see what I'm saying? It doesn't hit 950pph ever, no matter how hard you want it to.

EDIT: Dude, stop editing your posts and adding three paragraphs of stuff you *think* is funny but makes you look like a fool. You're making this more complicated than it needs to be.

About the 3M thing...I dunno, working at the park for five years (It *was* a 3M a year park, hasn't been for a few years now though) and talking to management about those numbers might make me KINDA know what I'm talking about, wouldn't you say?

But I'm sure ignoring that fact and coming up with some more inane blather is what you're bound to do anyway.

If it was anymore obvious about the capacity not being 950pph on Steel Venom, well, someone needs to take your cape away.

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Top Thrill Dragster -- The most intense, unbelievable, and spectacular fifteen seconds on any coaster, anywhere, ever.
*** This post was edited by Legendary 6/19/2003 4:21:27 PM ***

And your point is what, exactly?

You don't have one. Mine (had you of course, read and comprehended before posting) was that it's silly to complain about SV's queues when SFGAM has the same ride in a park with triple the annual attendance.

Of course, banging someone's head against reality is silly when they live in a dream world to begin with....

-CO

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The CPlaya 100--6 days, 9 parks, 47 coasters, 2037 miles and a winner.....LoCoSuMo.

Right, I see, so you ask for facts, I give them to you and tell you you're wrong, and now I have no point.

I believe that means my work is through here. Thanks, it's been real, Playa. Til next time.

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Top Thrill Dragster -- The most intense, unbelievable, and spectacular fifteen seconds on any coaster, anywhere, ever.

Of course, I'm sure I'll be adding to the list of those who apparently are banging my proverbial head against the wall... err reality after this comment, but I'm going to broach it anyway.

Playa,

I'd like to see your response to how SV will acheive their numbers they claim. He's basically broken it down to a 60 minute segment and the potential it might possess. Debunk, please.
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I'm not an enthusiast. I just play one on message boards.
*** This post was edited by Homey G. 6/19/2003 4:35:02 PM ***

A 60 Minutes segment? Please don't get Mike Wallace involved in this!
Oh, Chris. Go ride your DejaVu.. oh wait.. yours isn't running! ;)

Brian, who realizes you can throw the B&M hyper right back in my face. :-/

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I'm not an enthusiast. I just play one on message boards.

All I did was link the posted numbers. I'm no CoasterDork who counts laps, counts people or breaks my brief amusement park visits into joyless scraps of data. Don't know why I don't. Oh yeah, gotta life. My bad.

Like I said wayyyyyyyyyyyyy back on my second or third post on my thread--at the risk of repeating myself yet again (and again)--my only point was SV is fine for a park that gets a million to 1.2 million peeps a year. Half the weekends, VF can get away with single train operation(theoretical capacity 600 pph) on Corkscrew and Excalibur. Of course, you're always welcome to come crap your day away sitting at the exit counting people cuz I bet they don't hit their numbers either. That would make all the difference in the world to uh, somebody that gives a rip?

-CO

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The CPlaya 100--6 days, 9 parks, 47 coasters, 2037 miles and a winner.....LoCoSuMo.

Homey

I'm not quite so sure SFoG's is running! I went there twice last week, and they actually said over the phone to my friends that DV was running, and "running very well."

We get there, and guess what? Closed, and has been closed the whole day.

Since I got back from my trip I haven't checked, but I'm sick of driving over there and finding it closed, so I think I just won't go. :)

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Top Thrill Dragster -- The most intense, unbelievable, and spectacular fifteen seconds on any coaster, anywhere, ever.

And you didn't interrogate the rideops? Park management? Don't you have work to do?
About the Deja Vu's:

'I'm not being defensive! You're the one who's being defensive! Why is it always the other person who's being defensive? Have you ever asked yourself that? Why don't you ask yourself that?'

Does anyone else remember this one?

Ah, the "I have a life!" card comes out! I was wondering when you were going to use that one, man. Had me scared. I mean surely you have a life sitting at your computer arguing back and forth on a coaster message board with a 21 year old about something as stupid as a rides capacity!

Can't wait til I'm older so I'll "have a life," too.

ROFL, too funny! :)

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Top Thrill Dragster -- The most intense, unbelievable, and spectacular fifteen seconds on any coaster, anywhere, ever.

Just too busy having fun to ask, "Uhhh hey rideop--how many people does this thing gets an hour?" and then sit and count people. Doesn't that strike you as kinda sad?

I can't see how any functional guy can't be casually pretending not to check out some hot girl instead...but that's just me I guess.


-'Playa

(who frankly spends more time in the waterpark where he shows up anyway--more attractions there?)
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The CPlaya 100--6 days, 9 parks, 47 coasters, 2037 miles and a winner.....LoCoSuMo.

CoastaPlaya is RIGHT on. Commander Clipboard's crew is the definition of capacity. We are talking about the same guy who managed to get JUST under theoretical cap. on Excalibur last year. SV's crew is already getting 800pph+.

BTW, when I was at SFGAM a couple weeks ago, V2 was launching no more than once every 2.5 or 3 mins.

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Cameron Willis
Waiting for Coaster Mania!
*** This post was edited by CoasterCameron 6/19/2003 4:57:06 PM ***

Those guys are freaks...even by CF standards.
<--- just checked myself, and umm.. YEP! I'm functioning alright, but girls just don't do it for me.. and uh, neither do arrogant guys who think they rule message boards.

(btw, I don't sit there counting people, I asked "how many peeps per hour does this thing do?" It's called interacting with people, quite fun! But you just oogle the ladies, don't bother talking!)

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Top Thrill Dragster -- The most intense, unbelievable, and spectacular fifteen seconds on any coaster, anywhere, ever.

Oopsie daisy!! Baahahahaha.

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I'm not an enthusiast. I just play one on message boards.

Because we are on the subject, it should be noted that SV was MAD last night. It was going REALLY fast, and better yet, it was a 5 min wait!!! Weekday nights seem to be the best time to try and get some rides in

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Cameron Willis
Waiting for Coaster Mania!

Legendary: Glad to know I don't uhhhh, get ya going. Ewwwwwwwwww. And I don't think I'll be taking interaction notes from a 'self-checker' either. Who would?
I'm not going to take part in this stupid cat fight between these dorks, so instead I am just going to say whatI think about the future of Valleyfair. In the next 3-5 years, I think that they should come out with a B&M invert of some sort, maybe like talon, it would also be really cool if they got a wave pool to improve their pathetic waterpark.

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