What's Next for Valleyfair!

Unfortunately...
He might have been at VF for a followup visit to see how Steel Venom was doing, after all he helped plan that ride.

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Yeah...to see if it was blue enough or something. Oh, come on Shady! While WoF is long overdue for a good cap budget, apparently Decker's appearance alone isn't sufficient evidence to make it so.

Then again...VF could always be in line for another decent post-coaster budget ($3-5 million) due to strong early response to SV. Notice the latest quarterly report showed lower-than-expected attendance for CP, WoF and DP but not in hotdish country...

-'Playa

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Why isn't my theory possible 'Playa? It is quite possible that he hasn't had the chance to make it back to BFE to see how crowds are responding to SV first hand. I would imagine he has been rather busy with TTD here as of late with some of the problems it has been facing. Don't toot your flute yet boy, his prescence at VF doesn't scream large cap next year at VF either. BTW land surveyors were at WOF this past weekend.

Also 3-5 million is the normal "off season" cap that the parks get, so why you are getting so overly excited about that, not sure. I do agree with a post you made earlier that it is high time that VF spent some money on their poor excuse for a waterpark.

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People who read (TM) would have read "decent post-coaster budget" in my original post. And VF has pretty good slides--not good quantity, but the quality is there. Don't get all whiny, Boomerang Boy.

-CO

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What can you do with a punney 125 acres anyway?

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QAF's season finally is this coming Sunday. What's going to happen to Ted and Emmit?

Oh 'Playa you make it to easy. To quote from your post...

Then again...VF could always be in line for another decent post-coaster budget ($3-5 million) due to strong early response to SV.

And I repeat, that's a NORMAL capital budget off-season budget, and I still don't see why you are so overly excited about it. Oh and yes we do have a Boomerang, whivh makes our total of looping coasters one more than the 125 crammed for land acre park.

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I want VF to put in B&M Inverted coaster like

Raptor or Talon.

I be there every week to ride it.

I can ride all day on one coaster.


CoastaPlaya said:

You really have no legitmate reason for complaint while triple the SFGAM folk wait for much slower staff to operate V2. Go wait for that. You'll learn something.

What? While I haven't been to Valleyfair! yet this year (going in August for a few hours on the way to west coast), I am fairly certain Steel Venom does *not* get 950pph and also fairly certain SFGAm's V2 crew can dispatch as good if not better than VF!'s crew. You make them sound like they can't hit 500pph. Get real, that crew, since it's opening, has been very good. The few times I worked up there we hit 750 - 800pph and that was with filling every single seat during that hour. Fact is, these impluses don't get the people you think they do.

VF people are spoiled and just plain silly for expecting walk-ons every day.


I don't blame them, what is there that would be acceptable to wait for? Steel Venom and Power Tower maybe? I can't think of anything else.

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It doesn't matter if both crews hit full capacity--
a park with 3 million visitors a year will have longer lines than a park with 1 million a year for the same ride. If you took off your fanboy hat long enough, you would have figured out what was being said. Duhhhhhhhhhh.

Seeing that we already have threads raving about 45 V2 minute waits or 15 mins on weekdays, a little more reading would prove the same point even further.

Scoot along. We have our own topic here.

-'Playa

PS: The other scrubs rate one sentence each...

Swoosh: That would make two poorly-designed headbangers--bully for you.

CoasterBob: Apparently more than one decent woodie, huh?


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*** This post was edited by CoastaPlaya 6/19/2003 1:52:40 AM ***

Hmm... VF = 3 cookie cutter coasters (Corkscrew, Mad Mouse, Steel Venom). WOF = 1 (Boomerang). Yeah I can see where I would be braggin' if I were you too. (rollin' eyes).

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If you could whine that Corkscrew is cookie-cutter, you could say the same for Mamba. Both are only slight variations of another model.

SV cookie-cutter? Okay, there's two more just like it. But it's one mean ol' cookie and it's in my backyard. Neener neener.

-'Playa

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C'Playa, Corkscrew is the standard model Arrow Corkscrew. I have been on at least three with the same layout. I'm not trying to be mean, but it's the truth. Also I will admit, I really did enjoy SV when I was at the park, and if we get one next season, I will not complain. I just hope that SV doesn't hurt your chances of getting a full sized beemer invert. As for Mamba being an almost, true, but the difference that second hill and helix makes is unreal. The only complaint I have about Mamba vs Steel Force is the lack luster return due to the layout of the land. The bunny hills are weak.

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Uhhhh, nobody claimed it was any more cutting-edge than anything else in the '70s when Arrow was cool.

As for SV killing an invert: Doubt it. Small ride with short track = small maintenance costs. Personally, I'd be tickled pink with an Invertigo and a wavepool for the next 5-6 years.

-'Playa

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Where does "supply correct information" come into play, bud?

It doesn't matter if both crews hit full capacity--
a park with 3 million visitors a year will have longer lines than a park with 1 million a year for the same ride.

Yes, but out of either SFGAm or VF!, I ask you which park gets 3M visitors annually? Certainly isn't SFGAm!

pssst HINT! This is where "supply correct information" comes in! 950pph on your impulse? Maybe when you're wetting yourself in your dreams, however never in the real world.

If you took off your fanboy hat long enough, you would have figured out what was being said. Duhhhhhhhhhh.

Fanboy. Says the dude who can't stop his fingers from typing about VF in about every thread. Sure, man. SFGAm fanboy and only SFGAm fanboy here. Derrrr.

Seeing that we already have threads raving about 45 V2 minute waits or 15 mins on weekdays, a little more reading would prove the same point even further.

I haven't visited SFGAm this year yet, however last year I walked on the ride on a sunny June weekday. Also, people from the park who I have chatted with say there's basically never a long line on V2, even on Saturdays (SFGAm is now closing at 9pm on Sat in June instead of 10pm).

Scoot along. We have our own topic here.

Thanks, but no thanks. I think I'll stick around in here! As long as you keep posting misinformation, and all. Thanks for your concern, however!


:)

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*** This post was edited by Legendary 6/19/2003 2:04:01 PM ***


pssst HINT! This is where "supply correct information" comes in! 950pph on your impulse? Maybe when you're wetting yourself in your dreams, however never in the real world.

Who would you believe: This park , that park or some guy who can't even make readable posts? Open mouth, insert foot. Looks like you're wrong. Oops.

You can't read, you can't spell, you can't edit posts and you don't have your facts straight. HINT: Don't ever step to my chess board with your tiddly-winks again.

-'Playa

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*** This post was edited by CoastaPlaya 6/19/2003 2:22:30 PM ***

Playa, please. So now rides actually get theoretical capacity? So MF gets 1,600pph then? Says so right here:

http://www.cedarpoint.com/public/inside_park/rides/thrill/millennium/mffacts.cfm

Yet it has never ever hit that. Remember that lil' thing you told me about? Reading and comprehending? Yeah, try it. I meant it when I said it will never get 950 (or SFGAm's claim of 1,100pph lol) in the (and I quote) real world. Best I ever saw was around 800.

Who would you believe? Parks who are out to hype their ride as well as possible or someone who actually wrote down turnstyle readings each and every hour on one of the rides in question? Mmm hmm, that's right. Oops.

I believe that'd be Game. Set. Match. Next!

EDIT: By the way, can't spell? I've spelled what, one word incorrectly in all three of my posts?

Someone has no argument, nah nah na boo boo.

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*** This post was edited by Legendary 6/19/2003 3:50:16 PM ***

Translation: He's smarter than everybody cuz he counted himself.

Of course, he hasn't been to SFGAM this year and has no idea how the new crew is doing. Of course, he's never been to VF and has no idea how fast Commander Clipboard's crew does its thing....but he and he alone is smarter than everybody out there.

Like I said, who would any non-delusional person believe?


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*** This post was edited by CoastaPlaya 6/19/2003 3:53:31 PM ***

Oh, Cap'n Obvious is Mr. Jump to Conclusions now? When did that happen?

I've been to Valleyfair! (unfortunately) in 2000. Nowhere did I say I hadn't, just haven't been this year. I thought you were working on your comprehension skills? Try harder.

Next, it's really not all that new of a crew, considering there are many returns on the crew, and the same Team Leader on the ride.

Lastly, since you're obviously running out of smart ass quips, I invite you to tell me this...

Why, if they're the same ride, does VF state 950pph for its impulse, and SFGAm state 1,100pph for its impulse?

Things that make ya go hmmmmm, eh?

And I'm not smarter than everyone, just you, in this case.

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Not at all.

SFGAM quoted the theoretical capacity when they debuted V2 in 2000--which of course, they couldn't attain. When CP purchased WT in 2001 with its slightly longer train, Intamin could provide better real-world capacity numbers. SV's numbers are closer to reality.

Of course, visiting the park two years ago has nothing to do with the Impulse on-site today or your baseless and downright silly capacity claims.

Does that make sense? No? Listen--why don't you pop a Haldol, take a nap and read it over again? It will help. I promise it will. Better yet, ask the giant blue furry bunny hopping around your padded cell. There ya go. Happy bunny make it allllll better.

Now let's laugh at another silly statement of yours. You have soooo much good material, we just had to take 'em one at a time:


out of either SFGAm or VF!, I ask you which park gets 3M visitors annually? Certainly isn't SFGAm!

And you base this off of what, genius? Do the words 'Amusement Business attendance estimates' mean anything to you? Ohhhhhhh, that's right--they've got it all wrong too cuz you sit outside the gates and count 'em yourself. Seeing that you haven't been there this year at all, I think you missed a few days. Hope you got enough extra fingers and toes.

-CO

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*** This post was edited by CoastaPlaya 6/19/2003 4:19:16 PM ***

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