What's CP building right now by Magnum?

Could those footers have been from what was previously there? I know it seems unlikely that such huge supports would have been under the dodgems, but did anyone actually see crews construct the three footers in question? Could they not be new? If someone could clarify exactly when these things showed up, that would help.

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"apu05" good point in asking when the footers where put there. If you walk around WOF, you will see plenty of footers with nothing attached. They belong to past rides (i.e. Sky Heis & EXT) but were never removed.

I personally have no clue as to what CP will get next year and am content to wait until the park makes an announcement.

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No the footers are new, they were seen being poured in the offseason.

How about a dark ride. Cedar Point needs to bring back a dark ride.

timmyk31

All this over 3 FOOTERS!!!!!

Everyone here is talking about how small the area is!!! Guess what, that may not be the only place the attraction will be, and im betting on a coaster with some kind of records being broken. Before MF was built, i thought they would be doomed in to tearing something down, but CP found a way to fit a massive coaster!!! Believe me, you would be amazed by how they fit major coasters. A MF employee and I got in to a convo on the space and he said that the coaster will be an intamin hydraulic launcher, that will break the hieght and speed records. He said that it will be over 100 ft taller than MF and will go well over 100 mph, but i never take what imployees tell me too seriously.

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Even though i said that they will be getting and Xcelerater ride, i hope that they get the purple S&S TA2K. And they can always build in to that huge parking lot that is used for soak city, that woud make the project easy!!!

When I went to CP a couple weeks ago a ride op told me that its going to be another coaster that will be 100 feet taller than Millennium Force and that they are building it so soon becuase the city might put up height restrictions on the rides in the near future. THEN another ride op told me that its nothing and that it will be a restaurant. The first source that said it would be a rollercoaster didn't just come out of nowhere and say it, we had been talking for awhile and they seemed very sincere. Also, doesn't it say that the "new attraction will be announced later this season" on the huge wall? I wouldn't consider a restaurant an attraction, especially at an amusement park. From all of that I'd say its a coaster, wouldn't you?

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Hopefully in the layout, if this is the coaster CP may be getting, there will be 1 or 2, balls to the wall, close to the ground, helixes. Who knows, they can even throw some loops in there also.

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This is a great thread....

More popcorn please.....

and a diet pepsi too.....

.....with my desk chair reclined it's almost just like being at the movies. And its cheaper, too. (BTW, I was greatly disappointed with AP3: Goldmember....)

I HIGHLY DOUBT Cedar Point is installing another coaster. I've said this before on here (and it got ignored as usual) - in Monty Jasper's Wicked Twister construction diary, his last entry said "maybe we'll talk again in another couple years". This implies, of course, that he would be communicating with us on another "big project", nee rollercoaster. I don't think Monty is in the business of fibbing to us.

I know this is kind of a cheap shot, but it makes complete sense to me. And besides, when has Cedar Point ever installed a major coaster (in recent history) in consecutive years?

If what some of the misguided people are saying here ultimately turns out to be true, then great, but until then, I wouldn't get my knickers in a twist. The installation in question could just as easily be a docking pad for the little green men from the planet Neptor.

I keep hearing people comment about CP's lack of space...they are not out of space. As far as the city's supposed height restriction...why would they limit it? Sandusky would be nothing (no offense to anyone who lives there) without Cedar Point. They make millions off of the tax revenue alone. Also, CP has been there in one form or another since the late 1800's.

My other concern is with the rumored Intamin hydraulic launch. First, to build it 100 feet taller than MF would put it above 400, I doubt that CF as a company would build such a large ride without a proven record of stability. Look at how long they have waited since the first launched came out to add one to their lineup. This moves on to...why would they build 2 launched coasters in 2 years? Granted the launch would be different.

Lastly, if this attraction is going to be so big, they would not have stopped after 3 footers. Construction of the rumored ride would be happening wherever possible to sheild against a harsh winter that could hinder construction. Also, before they built the footers, they would have had to survey the area, and dig fairly deep to set the footer. When WOF got Mamba in 98, we had surveyed and began excavation even before the park went back to weekends. Even with that, the coaster was not completed until the day prior to opening. We began testing at about 2 pm the day prior and ran it all night to test. Also, don't forget that to CP employees, this is a game that they love to play.

I do not want to start an argument or war over what the new attraction will be. I just want everyone to consider the signs for or against this rumor.

Whatever it is, I will wait till they decide to release it to be excited.

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Thanks Den, Spacecase8310, Kick the Sky and Swoosh. You made me laugh. :-) I would have to say it's that new launch coaster that goes 800 m.p.h, is 500,000 ft. long and goes across the whole lake. I'm glad they're finally puttin' that in!

Back to this restaurant thing. Ok, the sign on the wall says, "we build for the future." That just dont sound like a restaurant sign to me! To build a restaurant for the future, it would have to be about 500 ft. tall, if you ask me. Also, I think there is no need for footers that size for a restaurant! This will be some type of a coaster or a drop ride. I also cant picture 3 flat rides in a roll!

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Matt said:

My other concern is with the rumored Intamin hydraulic launch. First, to build it 100 feet taller than MF would put it above 400, I doubt that CF as a company would build such a large ride without a proven record of stability.

Consider this, CP has been the first to every height record since 100'. They hit 200' first, 300' first and now with the 400' coaster in Europe that has failed to be approved they need to work quick to hit the "tera" height. It is obvious that other parks are finding ways to financially build these mega rides and as we have seen, it takes only one big coaster to put you on the map. With Six Flags building an 200'+ coaster I could see CP adding a 400' version of Xcelerator. With the type of structure it is proven. That type of rib construction is used in observation towers, cell towers, and many other things already. All you are adding is the extra stress created from the trains and repetition of the loads. It will honestly be interesting to see what they are building. For the last few years they have released all the information right before construction has begun. Maybe now that Heide Park came from the blue and was ready to go forward with their ride CP will decide to keep publicity at a minimum until they start making signature movements.

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If someone is going to get a 400ft coaster like Werner said in the US, I think its going to be Cedar Point. The two footers are so large they need 6-12 months to cure and they?re around 30ft deep. I think instead of building two large towers for the top hat, like on Xcelerator, they will build one very large tower. The two back footers would carry the tallest part of the ride making them the deepest footers, so they would have to dig them really early. The rest would be kinda like Millennium Force in the time it takes to dig and pour the footers and let them cure. The third is said to be weird shape footer and might supply power to the tower for lights to shine up the top hat and to have warning beacons for airplanes

For some reason I really hope its a giant version of Xcelerator. It would be great if it was taller than Six Flags Magic Mountain's Superman: The Ride. Then the point would have the tallest, the fastest, and probably the longest launched coaster in the world, along with the tallest and the fastest coaster in the world. Oh well, you never know what will happen, Kinzel always seems to have a trick up his sleeve.

Edit: Also, all this about 30 foot deep footers is incredibly hard to believe. Weren't the deepest footers on Millennium Force only around 8 ft. deep or so? With 30 foot deep footers maybe Cedar Point will be getting a sky scraper.... ;)

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Monty never said anything like that after his epic construction diary for MF. I think that he was trying to throw some people off by saying that. He wouldn't be fibbing as long as there is another project after this one in a few years because he could talk to us in a few years...he just failed to mention this year too.

Why build 2 coasters 2 years in a row?...why not build 2 coasters 2 years in a row? Back in 2000 Ohio saw a huge surge of coasters. CP now has some competition in SFWoA. I think that they wanted to one-up the competition by adding a bigger, faster, improved impulse, and then turn around and dwarf the competition by adding a huge launched coaster.

The first time I saw the price tag for WT, I was somewhat vexed as to why Cedar Fair would spend more money on Knott's that Cedar Point. Now it is clear to me. Xcelerator was a protoype that CF was bent on getting right...so that it would be able to see much more extreme heights and speeds in the Midwest. WT only cost 9 million dollars to build. I say "only" because in the last 8 years, all the big coasters CP build cost 8-16 million more than this. MF cost 25 million dollars to build, and that was for one year...why not spend the same amount of money on coasters in 2 consecutive years?

Another thing I thought was odd about WT was that CP didn't have any promo about the ride. There were a few snipets of interviews and a short animation, but there wasn't a story behind the ride like many of the previous coasters. They could have spent money on making a promo about how a couple of waterspouts touched down on the beach of CP and remained intense twisters. I think that CP was planning on saving money for 2003's addition.

There a many reasons why CP may have chosen to pour only a few footers...a) they wanted to get a head start for an already huge project for the fall...b) the area was a big plot of dirt, and they didn't want to spend the money to landscape it when they would just to have to tear again in 3-4 months for the fall construction...d) they wanted to get any construction that could be dangerously close to park guests done so that construction else where, void of guests, like the island could be focused on...e) they wanted to get park guests and internet coaster geeks speculating about the area even before it's announced so that they hype will be even higher when it is opened. ...f) all or some of the above.

I think that perhaps Cedar Point was waiting to get into the launched coaster industry because they were building guests' tolerance to the extreme. They build the first giga that is 300 ft high and 93 mph. This introduces guests to extreme height and prolonged, extreme speeds. Then they build a 215 ft giant impulse. This helps guests that are iffy about launches (and swaying :)) to conquer their fear. Then they announce a mammoth launched coaster that incorporates both of these rides' characteristics as well as some new elements.

I don't think you'll have to worry about those other flats because they will be moved or removed.

For all you nay-sayers out there...why don't you pick up on some of the hints being dropped? Do you think that Jeff added a whole new forum over to GTTP for no ride at all...or even a flat?

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Theirs also two wood stakes by ID, it might have nothing to do with area 51. There was also six container trucks seen going in and around Cedar Point over a couple days.

If you guys like this thread you need to read the 7 week old, 31 page long thread of discussion, speculation and arguing over at GTTP - it's a damn novel at this point!

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Hehehe I didnt expect that thread to get thaaaaaat long when I started it. :)

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