Valleyfair getting a new coaster or not???

I too remember the days of a trimless High Roller.

3 syllables: E-JECT-OR.

If it wasn't for the seatbelts, I don't think the buzz bars would hold me in back then.

I've never been on a GCI myself but I've heard good things so far. I would be more excited if it was to be a Gravity Group, but we already have 2 out and backs.

Somewhere else I read that there still may be a chance for a B&M right after this woodie is up and running. I'll look again for it.

That may be a stretch though.

I'll take GCI for the turns, and GG for the airtime. By the way... it's been confirmed by many people so no chance at all that it's gonna be an inverted.

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RavenTTD said: Thunderhead by itself is better than WoF and VF combined so don't count us out if we are indeed getting a GCII.

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Now if you said LR instead of Thunderhead I would agree with you 100%, but IMHO Thunderhead has got nothing on LR. Also I actually prefer OzCat over Thunderhead.

Thunderhead is the GCII equivalent of MForce....all about speed and intensity...

Lightning Racer, OTOH, is the GCII equivalent of....wait, there is no good match. LR is SO fun and interactive, I guess the closest thing in steel terms would be Hershey's own Roller Soaker...LOL!

Wow! I thought I was the only one.

What are you guys talking about? When I was there, Thunderhead was one of only 3 woodies I have been on that delivers tons of air in every seat. LR is what I am scared they trying to build at VF. That ride has no air and is so overrated. GCII finally perfected their tiny bunny hop on Thunderhead that was so choppy on Wildcat.

Choppy? What?

Actually, I'd say LR is underrated. I know very few people who like it as much as I do. Thunderhead gets all the praise. I just don't get it. It's very twisty and fast for the most part, but where is all of this airtime I hear about? I missed it on both times I've visted Dollywood since TH opened.

I hope VF's ride is crazy twisty like TH, but has more punch in the artime department. *** Edited 9/11/2006 9:52:06 PM UTC by Acoustic Viscosity***

Wildcat's small bunny hops jolt you at the same time they eject you. Thunderhead's bunny hops are smooth and fit the pacing perfectly. There was so much of it too. I have to go find one of my old TR's to be sure, but I think I counted like 11 airtime moments on that ride and they were all good. As for LR, I think I have to wait for CSI: Coasterbuzz to come out to help me find any air on that ride. *** Edited 9/11/2006 10:11:38 PM UTC by RavenTTD***

I have no idea what LR you rode, but the LR I rode last year was chock full of airtime -- was barely in my seat the entire ride. TH has more lateral shifting then negative Gs IMHO.

The air on LR is all in the back of the train and hard to notice until the ride picks up speed at the end of a hot, humid day. At least that's been my experience with it. I've had both great rides and lackluster rides on that coaster.

I'm not saying it's an airtime machine. Take out the fact that there are two tracks intertwined, I'd give the nod to Thunderhead easily. But I think OzCat is where it's at. :) I don't recall any choppy air on OzCat, but if there was any, I'm sure I'd like it even more. Bad trackwork can make for a great ride. See Tsunami. ;)

(on OzCat) There is air going down the first drop then going down the second hill, then there is another pop going down the third hill and then it gets really crazy on the magic carpet finale.

I have not been on OzCat. I was talking about Wildcat at Hersheypark. In some ways it is similar to Thunderhead but you can certainly see that GCII has come a long way after you ride both. I think Thunderhead is the ride they were trying to make when they built Wildcat. As for the air on Thunderhead vs LR, I guess I have been on rides that performed one day and not the other. Thunderhead was so good when I rode it that it is hard for me to imagine a lack luster day on it, but I should keep in mind that the track was wet when I rode and they had to shut down the ride because it was hitting the brake run too hard. On LR I tried the front and back looking for air and I did come back later in the day. I must have got it on a bad day because there was only a spot or two that even began to hint at air. If the coaster at VF performs like my Thunderhead rides only half the time, I will be overjoyed with this ride and I would head out to VF every time it rained. *** Edited 9/12/2006 1:51:34 AM UTC by RavenTTD***

Since you brought up Hershey's WIldcat, I'll add that it probably tops all of 'em IMO. :)

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WildThingNative said:
I too remember the days of a trimless High Roller.

3 syllables: E-JECT-OR.

If it wasn't for the seatbelts, I don't think the buzz bars would hold me in back then.

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Just so you know the seat belts on Roller were added only a few years ago *** Edited 9/12/2006 2:51:48 AM UTC by VF Ride Op***

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VF--New-coaster07 said:
Ya know what I hate, the minute Valleyfair gets something good, Cedar Point either already has it, or is gonna get it. The point is, CP is the most spoiled park in the CF chain, and now that Valleyfair is getting a new GCI woodie, CP's gonna HAVE to get one. I mean serisously. Example: Hybrid Steel Track Wood Structure, Impulse, Hyper, out and back woodie, and a mad mouse (Wildcat). Oh yeah, and basically the second after Xtreme Swing was announced, they all of a sudden decided to build something that was just a tad bit taller just to be the best. I know... some of you are saying I'm jealous, and I am, but what I don't get is why do they ALWAYS need to max out what they're getting. I bet they got majorly pissed off after Kingda Ka was built because that was taller. I think that's why everyone was talking about a 500 ft. coaster. They don't care about maintnence issues, they care about being the best WHICH I HATE. :) O.K., I'm done now.

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What are you talking about?! Gemini, Cedar Point's "hybrid steel track wood structure" coaster as you call it was built 9 years before Valleyfair!'s Excalibur. Wicked Twister was built before Steel Venom. Magnum was built 7 years before Wild Thing not to mention the fact that Wild Thing is taller, faster, and longer. Cedar Point's outand-back woodie was built in 1964, 12 years before Valleyfair even opened. Wildcat and Madmouse should not even be compared as they are totally different coasters built 20 years apart. I am sure Cedar Fair planned on building two Xtreme swings at the same time. Cedar Point just added a sign so Skyhawk would be taller and they could market it differently from Valleyfair!'s swing. I highly doubt Cedar Point will get a woodie next year or even the year after. Cedar Point is the larger, more profitable, and more visited park, therefore it gets the bigger everything. Valleyfair! is a regional park and Cedar Point is a world-class park and each build attractions respectively.

Isn't Valleyfair's S&S tower taller than CPs?

VF tower is capped at 275 ft. because of the airport next door. CP tower I think is 300 ft.

The tower structure may be taller but the actual ride portion is smaller than VF's, if I recall correctly. I'm pretty sure Knott's version offers a taller ride portion.

I thought Hershey's Wildcat was one of the worst coasters I have ever been. I did like LR though.

^You need to get out more than -- there are a lot worse! ;)

Wildcat at HP is all right as is, but I think it will be much better when they get MFlyers on it.

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