Son Of Beast to Re-open 2007

I just wanted to take this opportunity to say, "I told you so." I have been posting that the loop was the worst part of SOB not because it was rough, but because it made those horrible trains necessary, ever since I rode that ride. Not only will the trains be lighter, but you will not be stapled to a rock anymore so the jarring will not have such a huge impact on you. *** Edited 12/14/2006 6:38:53 PM UTC by RavenTTD***

Gonchar, I think you misunderstood me. I was referring to posts about removing the loop making SOB LONGER than it was before, not stronger. :)

Read Infamy's post on the last page. *** Edited 12/14/2006 6:49:21 PM UTC by Coasterbuzzer*** *** Edited 12/14/2006 6:50:37 PM UTC by Coasterbuzzer***

Why wouldn't they make SoB longer than Beast? Too unclassy?

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Coasterbuzzer said:
Gonchar, I think you misunderstood me. I was referring to posts about removing the loop making SOB LONGER than it was before, not stronger.

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Oh, I see. I though you were commenting on the story in general.

So, the question remains...How would removing the loop make Son of Beast longer?

It wouidn't unless they added to it. The replacement of track in the loop area would only marginally change the coasters length 214ft total if they just replaced it with a straight speed section. If a air hill is added then it would be it would still be less than with the loop.

They'd have to add sections to the ride to make it longer. I don't see that happening.

Chuck, who came to that conclusion as the loop was 107ft tall and just doubled that for the track length of that section

Here's a theory: This change is the cheapest way to re-open the ride.

The state requires modifications to better handle the loads imposed on the structure. You could go through and reinforce very bolt, beam, etc. Unfortunately, that structure is darn big, and darn inconvenient to work on.

Alternatively, you could reduce the forces on the ride by making a local change and ripping metal out of the trains or rebuilding them.

Not saying this isn't ultimately a good thing for the ride, but I don't think this change is motivated solely by improving rider experience. As has been noted, the thing already drew adequately with a crappy ride experience.

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Coasterbuzzer said:
So, the question remains...How would removing the loop make Son of Beast longer?

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No one ever suggested that removing the loop would make the ride longer. That's absurd. It has to do what they put in place of the loop, for the transition or to add more elements, that I was talking about. Because the track does not directly line up when there is a loop in place, some sort of connection will need to be made. Whether that's a long, banked s-curve, or some other element, it doesn't matter. However, some sort of transition will be required.

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Coasterbuzzer said:So, the question remains...How would removing the loop make Son of Beast longer?

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Dpends on whether they press the "complete circuit - express" button, or the "complete circuit - scenic" button... ;)

Get your own material!

^....or at least read the entire thread... *blush*...

They could leave the loop support structure and the upper part of the track on it as a 'theme' element that you zip under. Hang an original train with dummies in it at the top of the 'loop'. ;)

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rollergator said:
^....or at least read the entire thread... *blush*...

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Let's just attribute it to great (or fried) minds thinking alike. ;)

Fried. It'll second that motion.

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Infamy said:

Considering the length of SOB is already fairly close to the Beast's, I don't think they will consider getting much closer to that record, and I highly doubt they would consider giving that record to SOB.

Of course, they've now gained some length to work with since the loop is gone, but still.

I think it will be a gradual transition, as Charles suggested--perhaps a long, drawn out s-curve or something.

Again, I may be grasping at straws with this, but feel free to ponder my thoughts. :D

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Sorry, I was just confused by this part of what you said, Infamy.

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Chuck, who came to that conclusion as the loop was 107ft tall and just doubled that for the track length of that section

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ummmmmmm.... no? :)

I find it nothing short of frightening that there has been six pages dedicated to the discussion of this ride re-opening in 2007. . .

A single blurb about it's re-appearance would be more than enough information for me.

Egad! New topic, please.

Surely there is SOMETHING ELSE we can fixate on. . .

And Barry Williams rulles the world :)

Coasterbuzzer: I could see how you can become confused regarding, "Of course, they've now gained some length to work with since the loop is gone, but still."

What I meant by that is that by removing the loop, there is a significant amount of track there that is gone, so they have some extra length to play with when it comes to designing the transition.

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Barry, with all due respect, this ride is implicated in a rather serious accident that injured over 20 people and has resulted in two lawsuits against a major amusement park. I hardly find it petty that it is being discussed here. In fact, I think it is important that people are reassured that they will be safe on the ride and that the park is taking every step necessary to ensure that the ride will be safe to ride again.

^I know I want to read about Son of Beast. Maybe some don't care, but there are those of us that do. Heck, I've even seen some people who hate/loathe SOB stating that they will give it another try with the new trains.