Son Of Beast to Re-open 2007

Wow, very surprising to hear.

Seeing that I can finally go back to PKI for 2007 after a two-season hiatus, it'll be wierd to go back on SOB without the only redeeming quality of the ride. While I loved the ride and would purposely sit in the back seat with the wife to get the crap kicked out of us, the day-ending headache won't be missed.

Here's what I'm wondering. If the new trains will allow a smoother ride experience and there's less jerking, would this mean a faster ride?

I can't imagine going through the "Rosebowl" at a faster speed with the intensity it already has!

~Rob Willi

I know it's wood, but it seems like it's inherited more traits from another since-deceased coaster. Unbearable roughness, constant rider compaints, removal of an inversion...

Son of Drachen Fire?

The Beast: Your son has just been neutered.

Like father, like son.

I hate being right :), Check back and I was the first to say if the loop was going, So were the trains.

Obviously a padded comfy MF that turns will cut the maintainance of the ride by 3/4s.

Im just wondering if the loop drop is going to be full speed into the second helix or a air hop will be added. Yeah, some realingment will need done but its a hundred plus yards and can be done gradually.

Chuck

I MIGHT give it a second chance at Coaster Con IF they give it Flyers.

I'm not a huge fan of inversions but that loop was definitely my favorite and I'll miss it. :(

I may sound rather ignorant in saying this, but that's okay. While I have absolutely no idea what elements they could, or are planning to, add to replace the loop, but I highly doubt it will be anything spectacular, as far as dramatically changing the layout before it goes into the second "rosebowl."

Considering the length of SOB is already fairly close to the Beast's, I don't think they will consider getting much closer to that record, and I highly doubt they would consider giving that record to SOB.

Of course, they've now gained some length to work with since the loop is gone, but still.

I think it will be a gradual transition, as Charles suggested--perhaps a long, drawn out s-curve or something.

Again, I may be grasping at straws with this, but feel free to ponder my thoughts. :D

Neutered is a good term. I'll miss the loop, but, I certainly will give the ride a fair chance with new trains.

I can here the people in line now..."it used to have a loop, but the train fell off in it and they had to take it down"....or you can insert your own falsehood....

You know, that crow tastes like just like chicken.

Infamy very good point. When I first saw the news of the loop removal, my first reaction was to think of all the new track, etc. But as you point out if they did that they are taking The Beasts "gimmick". I cant see them making SOB the longest in the world, so it does limt what they can do to an extent.

Andy also brings up a good point, are you going to count it again? We do with Phantoms Revenge. Granted PR was allmost a completly new ride where as SOB will have new trains, no loop, maybe more.

My hope is that everything back to the rose bowl (ie the break run too) is going to be removed, the turn angled to have the track get close enough (and fit with the old track with a redesign of that turn) and a drop followed by an airtime hill is added to that section. I also would not mind a double down.

Would this change give it enough to beat its papa in length? My uneducated guess is no since the loop had a fair amount of track in it (or at least enough for an airtime hill) but I agree there is no way they make SOB longer then the Beast.

I have another question now; isn't there a general coaster wood coaster construction thought ' "if it doesn't shake, it's gonna break?"

If so, why are they adding more solid structural support to the ride to prevent it from 'giving'? Doesn't that go against the theory above?

New for 2007, Eunuch of Beast!

It was giving too much...in more ways than one. ;)

Have you ever seen footage of The Rattler and how much that track gives? It is really amazing and scary all at once.

Hello Kitty: The Ride?

^ I got a preview pic of the new trains....yay me!

http://www.rcdb.com/ig1276.htm?picture=3

;)

I don't see how removing the loop will add more length to Son of Beast. Someone said that there is roughly a hundred yards in between the drop and helix. I can see it adding maybe a few feet, but, I don't see it adding more than 368 more feet of track.

It's all about the trains, Coasterbuzzer.

My understanding in the simplest terms:

The kind of trains needed to handle the loop weigh too much for the rest of the layout - destroying it. Remove the loop, add lighter trains, problem solved.

*** Edited 12/14/2006 6:28:01 PM UTC by Lord Gonchar***