something big comin to CP?
B&M_Lover said:
i love it how everyone thinks that cp is running out of room. there is alot more to cp peninsula than what people think. they could still build alot more coasters. it would be really cluttered though.-----------------
Raptor rules the sky!!!!
Clutter is good if it goes really fast and really high. It could be a coaster, SFMM has 15 (if they are working) and CP has 15 and CP always wants to stay on top, so???
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Get to the Point
The way some of you talk on these sites, you would think Dick Kinzel and his management gang were sitting around a conference table all day saying, "gee, what are we going to do? We are running out of room here. I am feeling a little claustrophobic. The walls are coming in on me."
The peninsula will be the location of all major improvements for a long time to come. As for the rides they have "gotten rid of." The Jumbo Jet and Double Wheel were basically carnie rides that couldn't last forever. Pirate Ride was cheap and an operational problem. The Cedar Point Cinema wasn't moved, just changed. Frankly, the only ride mentioned by spryboy that was moved solely b/c another ride was coming was the Frontierland Sky Ride.
Look at pictures of Blackpool Pleasure Beach in England and then tell me that Cedar Point has no room for expansion.
Wabash Cannonball said:
CCI could build a coaster in, under and through Mean Streak and it would be great or just bulldoze Camp Snoopy.
Yeah, erase millions in recent capital improvement. That makes sense.
Some of you I think over-state the size of the footers. It's nice to see them taking a cue from PKI and building a little hype. I know that there is a clearer picture coming into focus, and we all know the competition is building a 200-foot Intamin ride next year. Should be interesting to see what we get! Either way, it sure is fun to live in NE Ohio.
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wahoo skipper said:
Frankly, the only ride mentioned by spryboy that was moved solely b/c another ride was coming was the Frontierland Sky Ride.
Um, don't forget Jungle Larry's (to make room for Power Tower), and the Aquarium to make room for Wicket Twister. They had to move the Giant Wheel to make room for Millenium Force. They moved the paddle-wheel cruise to make room for Mantis. They removed a couple of flat rides to make room for Raptor.... the list does go on.
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Spryboy said:
Um, don't forget Jungle Larry's (to make room for Power Tower), and the Aquarium to make room for Wicket Twister. They had to move the Giant Wheel to make room for Millenium Force. They moved the paddle-wheel cruise to make room for Mantis. They removed a couple of flat rides to make room for Raptor.... the list does go on.
Actually, Jungle Larry's left mostly b/c they were ready to go. Larry's wife (Larry had passed) didn't want to continue making the trip up from Naples, Florida year in and year out. Power Tower could have been built in a lot of places but the area it sits in needed something.
Yes they moved several rides to make space for new ones, ala the entrance for Paddlewheel.
In almost all circumstances, however, more than just "we need the space" went into the decisions. With the dolphins passing and the aquarium not generating the interest it once did, the elimination of those attractions made sense. Having two log flumes wasn't really necessary as coasters were being built, and you will notice they didn't remover the most popular one.
Saying Cedar Point is running out of room is about as perceptive as saying the world is flat.
No matter how little room it looks to have, they can build a coaster. Just look at IB in the last 2 years. I really do wonder why everybody thinks it's always a coaster coming? I mean, everybody wants more coasters, but every year people think one is coming.The most sensible idea is that it's some sort of S&S ride or a flat ride.
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the guy said:
they're building an arrowbatic because they want something original to compete with SFMM's 4d...
Yeah, CP is jealous that they don't have a modern maintenance nightmare! I can see it now "Hey, we need a ride that we can close down for months at a time just like SFMM"
Well, let's put it this way....Cedar Point has existed for 130 some odd years, right? And in that time, how many rides have been built in Lake Erie (not counting that old slide you see in the museum)?
If, and it is a big IF, future expansion cannot be confined to the space currently surrounded by fence, they will come up with other ways to go about it. Moving into the existing parking lot, building coaster stations "in the berm" and running track outside the park ala Maggie and WT.
I truly believe it will be many years, perhaps even many decades, before CP officials throw up their arms and say, "That's it! We're done here."
2. The campground back there is just a holding pattern. In the big scheme of things, compared to the park, hotel and restaurants, it doesn't make enough money to show up on the accounting ledger. When the park needs space, it will take that direction.
3. But it has lots of infilling to do first. Frontier Trail is also a holding pattern. The park doesn't need a blacksmith, glassblower, leather shop or farm animal display. They don't generate enough profit to matter, either. When they need space, those buildings will go.
4. The old summer employee barracks are obsolete. The park already knows they need replaced. A good bet is the replacement won't be on the same spot. As someone else said, they do need to house those workers, but not on the point. They could bus them in.
5. There's a lot of parking over along the western shore by the marina which could be nibbled a quarter acre at a time.
6. Bottom line is : in the lifetimes of people posting here, CP is not running out of land.
How did this become another CP space issue thread? They've obviously secured an area for a new attraction, there ARE no space issues, end of story.
As for what it might be for, it's for a RIDE, that much I can promise you. Coaster or not, you'll be enjoying something new at Cedar Point in 2003. Will some of you spoiled brats actually be disappointed if it's not a 450ft vertical rollercoaster dropping below sea level? ;)
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The campground isn't going anywhere, they just renovated it and it's a huge success.
The Frontier Trail is a wonderful area for children, families and anyone who wants to get away from midway. Areas like that define the atmosphere of a park, I would guess that it is much more important for customer statisfaction than you would think.
Jungle Larry is gone because the family didn't want to run it anymore, CP wanted them to stay.
None of the buildings, like Pirate Ride, Cinema, Earthquake, etc. are gone. They have just changed use. So, that doesn't count as a removal to free up space.
Rumor has it that the Frontier Lift was removed because of guests breaking the rules while riding through the woods. I doubt it was a maintenance nightmare. Practically the same machinery works fine on the Sky Ride.
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