S.O.B.
I think that comment goes along well with the oddly shaped Son of Beast sport cups the PKI sold for a while.
"Wood Rules"
Coasterdude318 said
those Premier trains introduce absolutely *no* new technology.
The trains have alot of new Technology in them. This was transfered to Flight of Fears new trains. I'd say there was new tech there.-----------------
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DorneyDante said:
Look at all the examples they have of megawoodie disasters in the US: Mean Streak, Hercules, Rattler, the only one half decent is texas giant and that one had to even be reprofiled a bit.
PKI has done their homework. That's why The Racer and The Beast are still in GREAT condition after more than 20 years! I've got ALL my money on SoB remaing the great coaster it is, if not better.
SOB TOM says:
"Stay out of the line if you dont like it."
For some reason I don't think that's going to be a problem for many of us, Tom.
Moosh
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When you build your park, make sure you have a wooden looper! :)
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Darth says:
"When you build your park, make sure you have a wooden looper!"
Moosh, in his best Dr. Evil voice, says:
"Riiiiiiiiight."
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The two gentlemen who wrote these reviews pretty much summed up my opinions as well, with important exceptions, but we all have our own opinions, of course.
I don't think Son is nearly as bad as many people let on - it's a rather large wooden coaster, and anyone thinking they're going to get a smooth ride on it is just naive. For all of the records it broke, though, and for all its uniqueness, I can't say that my opinion of it matches its impressive statistics. It's just okay. Period. And, yes, I would ride it again if I went to PKI (especially at night - you think it's violent in the day?).
They really hit the mark on The Beast. But give it a 9.5 and Millennium only a 9? Heresy! Their insights on a couple of rides were a little inaccurate (i.e., calling Raptor a suspended coaster, saying King Cobra was removed a couple of years ago, etc...), but this is forgiveable. Why did they say Wicked Twister had "no kick?" I thought that was a little more off the mark than anything else they said - no kick, riiiiight..... An amateur's opinion, I guess. But they made up for that when they said "...bottle Raptor's essence and Cedar Point will never have to work again." True, profound, and my thoughts exactly.
Just my rambling thoughts on the matter.
Ok, Mark. Find the next bring a friend free day, you know the days that have about 70,000 people in the park. I guarantee SOB will have one of the longest lines in the park. You know why, because the general public likes the ride. Therefore, your insight on the ride seems to not matter to the park. Maybe next time you would look at the coaster before judging it. I say that because if you are saying there is no technology in the cars, then you are blind. The lapbar itself is a big improvement. Sure, its small, but it is meant to fit into a groove. How does it achieve a groove in the body? By tilting the body backwards. Thats why the floor raisers are there, and this is why big people have trouble getting into the cars. This technology is to hold the rider in the car when the car is going low speed throughout the course. This was then transferred to FOF for their lapbars, only they added the foot restraint. Now, if you will please excuse me, I have more intellegient things to talk about.
Tom
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Darth Saambe said:
PKI has done their homework. That's why The Racer and The Beast are still in GREAT condition after more than 20 years! I've got ALL my money on SoB remaing the great coaster it is, if not better.
You missed my point entirely. I meant that if PKI had done their homework on all the other problem plagued 150 ft+ woodies in the US they wouldnt have built a 200 ft woodie. It had nothing to do with how well they taker care of theor woodies. Obvioulsy they do something right, just look at the examples such as Racer and Beast(that you are right on). Name one megawoodie in the US with a 1st drop over 150 ft that has been running for at least 5 years now and runs well, ill bet youll come up short with an answer for that one.
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There is *no* new technology in the lapbars. They may have decided to go about it a little differently, but (IMO) they went about it completely wrong. Lapbars do not need to plaster you to the seat for the entire ride; PTC-type lapbars have worked just fine for years. How exactly is cramming someone into a car and unnecessarily plastering them into the seat an improvement?
Bottom line is that alterations in track gauge, lapbar position, etc are absolutely not based on any new technology. It'd be better if people just argued the ride wasn't at all rough rather than trying to argue it's rough because of all this "new technology" BS. It's not the roughness that bothers me about the ride anyway...it's just boring as hell.
-Nate
coasterdude318 said:
roughness that bothers me about the ride anyway...it's just boring as hell.
-Nate
You describing yourself or the ride there Nate?
Chuck, who never ceases to be amazed at some peoples negativity toward everything.
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Is it about coasters or friends? I say both!
Well, Chuck, I am a coaster enthusiast...meaning I am excited about riding just about any coaster, any day. I am not a negative person by nature. I have to agree with Nate...never have I seen so much track do so little, and kick you in the liver while doing it.
I'll give SOB another shot when I eventually make my way back to PKI. There is nothing more I would like than to find that my first half-dozen rides were a fluke. But like a few others coasters on my list if it hasn't improved I'll go wait for something else.
The proof will be in the pudding when Mitch's poll comes out. I was ballot #180 when I turned in my ballot almost 2 weeks ago, so he should be closing in on 200 ballots by now. How can 200 people be wrong? I'd be willing to bet SOB still ends up in the bottom 50% of the rankings.
Moosh
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Moosh, I know you like coasters, I know you also state that some things shouldn't matter like Lapbars.
SOB has improved a ton, Weather it ever becomes your type of ride or not, I can't say and can't make you like it. I to find after the loop to be somewhat lacking but it dose have good airtime in back in four spots and the speed is amazing.
I have had coasters I didn't like much when I first rode them, Coasters that later became my favorites. Some had things done to them, Some didn't. BKF is one that I really didn't like when I first visited. I don't know why but I like it now. ST wasn't all it was hyped to be, UNTIL I RODE IT AT NIGHT! and Boulderdash ranks kinda low based purely on the rides I recieved on it.
Chuck, who wasn't really talking bout coasters, Just saying that why be so negative about everything, It seems every post of Nate's I notice is all about negatives. I just wonder if there are any coasters he dose like and wasn't really trying to attack him
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Is it about coasters or friends? I say both!
I keep seeing people say the GP likes it. WHO CARES? They like it cause it's big, fast, and has a loop. Does that make it good. NO! These people have not generally been on the various coasters most of us have. Their opinions are limited to what they know. The Beast, Racer, and SOB are for the most part, what they know of wooden coasters.
I have yet to find a bad seat on The Raven, or The Lengend, Cornball, or Ga. Cyclone. I have yet to find a seat on SOB that is anywhere near the greatness of those coasters. But as usual, it ends up being the attack of the fanboys. Don't get me wrong, I've lived 20 mins from PKI all my life, and LOVE the park. I go there 20+ times a season, whenever I get the chance, even if it's not till 6 or 7 in the evening. But some people are just un-willing to admit when their favorite park has screwed up. And that's ok.
Eric
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