S.O.B.
I have to agree with you guys about the leg room. I'm average height, 5' 10", but even I had a rough time with it. My friends (6' 1" and 6' 4" respectively) could barely fit. Still.. once you're falling 60 degrees at 75 mph there isn't a whole hell of a lot to complain about. :-)
Eh. Phyter... it's 55. Sorry I'm a SoB stat whizz.
Mr. Rush,
Although it's great to have smooth woodies, I like to know that I've been on one. I'd rather have a rough wooden coaster(within reason) than a smooth one. And IMO SoB is within reason.
I've only ridden it 4 times(in Sept 2001) but I found it to be a fun ride. That having been said, it was rough as hell. Being a rough ride doesn't mean it is a bad ride, though. Now, if I was over 6' 220lbs, I think it would be a nightmare. I'm not that size and it really did bang up my thighs quite a bit.
It's all a matter of what you define as rough and what you define as tolerable. I thought is was rough but tolerable enough to enjoy the ride.
Also, the GP seems to really enjoy the ride. My daughter(8) thought it was a lot of fun. She's been on a lot of coasters(50) and thought it was rough but enjoyed it. She was also booing after she got off Mean Streak at Cedar Point (the only negative in a world of positives found on our only trip to CP)on the same trip, so she knows coasters.
The GP likes the ride. That's all they intended to accomplish.
I once saw a show with a bunch of people from Europe visiting the US to ride coasters. They were on a bus heading to a park and were watching a video of coasters. They were all pretending they were on it with their hands up yelling and carrying on. It was a VIDEO! THAT is reason #23,932 why I don't have any desire to attend enthusiass events.
My #1 reason?
They analyze rides to the point of taking the fun out of the ride experience.
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Millennium Force - Any other questions?
Ok 2 things:
1) For those of you who are tall, let me put it the way I was telling people all year. Lets say you and your little child was riding. The little tyke barely makes the height limit, but the seats are uncomfortable for you. ok. Fine. Lets make the seats comfortable for tall people. Now, theres a problem with the little girl sliding around in the seat next to ya. See what Im getting at? You cant have it both ways. Unless you really want OTS Restraints.
2) For those of you who have waited since it first opened: I have ridden SOB 111 times in less than a season and a half and I have had maybe 10 bad rides. Those were the rides in the rain or extreme cold. Give it another try before you start bashing it. The great maintenance people at PKI (GO BUB!!!!!!!!) have done wonders to it since the first season. Therefore, if you havent ridden it since the first season, you shouldnt be bashing it. One ride in what, 3 years, shouldnt make or break a coaster. Coasters are always being improved (woodies a little bit more noticable than steel).
Thats all I gotta say.
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SOB crew in twenty 02
111 SOB laps, and wishing the park was still open
Mamoosh said:
"Is a coaster considered great if you have to avoid 2/3 of the seats in order to get a smooth ride?"
I agree comletely. It's like that with the Mean Streak and RWBobs. Everyone claims "well if you sit in the right seat..." bla bla bla. A truely great ride will preform in any seat.
And 2Hostyl i rode in that front axel seat on the last car and had a terrible ride. But the more i hear form other people of greater height i tink it may be a size thing. Because now that i think of it it was a rather tight fit for my 6'1" frame. And i think most would agree that it's much more comfortable to bounce around in the train and go with the flow than it is to be stapled in and effectivly become part of the train in a kinematics sort of way.
I still say that the major drawback on the SOB is that the trains crest way to slowly. Sure the drops are incredible for the most part, but there's no speed on the up side. And i didn't get a ride with any speed on the end of the ride. I didn't like it because i found it boring while it jarred my fillings out.
meangene,
While there are many different types of wooden coasters, I can tell that you would prefer a ride more like Shivering Timbers. Wooden twisters are not designed to crest the top of hills at a high speed providing the negative g's that you wish SoB had. I agree that SoB is a rough coaster, but it's not unbearable. I wish they would do something with the trains as much as everyone else. IMO the ride isn't bad. It has it's flaws, but so does every coaster. Because of the magnitude of SoB, the flaws stand out easier. But the opposite is the same aswell. If you take Sonny what it's for, it can be a real gem.
Coaster Zach said:
I'm willing to go through the roughness of S.O.B., which I don't think is that bad, any day for that great layout, not to mention the loop. I consider Mean Streak about the same roughness, not TOO bad but very noticeable, but I'm not going to want to endure that somewhat little pain for the slow, bad-paced, trimmed up Mean Streak.
Great layout?!? Are you kidding? SOB has one of the worst layouts of any coaster. Its all boring helicies...nothing to it...bleh. The only good part is the loop and when its over...I'm not even gonna comment on the roughness...
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This includes the many Premier and Schwarzkopf lapbar-only loopers I've ridden. SOB is just a piece of junk.
-Nate
I've said this before but heck, I don't mind repeating myself. Paramount was looking into building clones of a vary famous, defunct mid-sized wooden twister [it was in the state of New York but not at Coney] and even had the blueprints. Most if not all of the parks in the chain were to get one. They changed their mind and got SOB instead.
Oh well...when Mooshland opens it's have a replica of this coaster if the original park doesn't bring it back [and I'm told they're also looking into it as well].
Moosh - full of specifics today ;-)
Heres a question for you: How many wooden coasters with lapbars have a loop? Therefor, for the lapbar to be effective throughout the loop, your body has to be tilted back so that theres a groove for the lapbar to hold you in properly. Therefor, the smaller people need to be tilted back more. Therefor, smaller cars. Get my drift now?
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SOB crew in twenty 02
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The fact that it is wooden and has a loop has nothign to do with that, man. There are tons of steel coasters that have loops with just lapbars that are MUCH easier to fit into.
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- Peabody
SOB_TOM said:
Heres a question for you: How many wooden coasters with lapbars have a loop? Therefor, for the lapbar to be effective throughout the loop, your body has to be tilted back so that theres a groove for the lapbar to hold you in properly. Therefor, the smaller people need to be tilted back more. Therefor, smaller cars. Get my drift now?
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SOB crew in twenty 02
111 SOB laps, and wishing the park was still open
You obivously don't know anything about physics. You're not just gonna fall out during a loop because the lap bar wasn't big enough...
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Its centripital, baby!
Moosh [checked "centripital" with my spell-checked but it still doesn't look right].
Mamoosh said:
Paramount was looking into building clones of a vary famous, defunct mid-sized wooden twister [it was in the state of New York but not at Coney] and even had the blueprints.
Rye Aeroplane?
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'I want to be a statistic. I want to be masochistic. I want to be a clone.' - Descendents 'Suburban Home'
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