SFA 2006??

We might as well forget about a rocket period..at least for the next three years..and BATWING FAN SFA is right, we'll be lucky if we even get ONE! But I think we can do it. If the corporation takes the time out to see that SFA needs much improvement, they'll do what they can to make it a better park, you know, get the park up on it's feet, so they can generate the money to get three coasters at one time (*mysterious snicker*), or maybe even a rocket. Even though a rocket would really be nice..I don't think that it's a much-needed addition. Now, if the rocket came with a newly-themed area..then so be it. Wouldn't have a problem with that at all..but if they put one more (and I mean ONE MORE..) coaster in Gotham City, I'm gonna scream..! Gotham City might as well be a separate amusement park! LOL! *** Edited 8/1/2005 4:40:33 PM UTC by PeteSpeed2009***

SFA doesn't have a 200' height restriction, they have a 200' height limitation. The difference, there is nothing saying they cannot build over 200', the problem is that they need special clearance to build anything over 200'.

SFA also falls into an "Urban Expansion" restriction. To avoid the county growing too large too fast, the county limits the number of homes that can be built per year. SFA recieves the trickle down limitation that forbids the park from raising the coaster count by more than one per year. If you remember, SFA built three new coasters in 1999 (Joker's Jinx, Two Face, and Great Chace) but they also removed two coasters that same year (Python and Cannonball). For this reason, they probably will never add three coasters in the same year, unless they recieve some sort of special clearance.

Precisely Coaster Lover. That's why most of the land you find behind Six Flags is not being used...Go over to the Watkins Park residence areas..and there's one particular place (can't exactly pinpoint it really..) where they have a couple of trees knocked down, making some room for a new residence area ( or a continuation)..and you can see S:ROS from there. It was quite clear to me why all of that space is not being used for expansion..because it's not their land. Even the Railroad could only be built but so far..(well technically..it's been there for a hell of a long time..so..), but my point is..Six Flags has a lot of things to worry about when adding new rides, and where they can put them..that's why we can only go but so big (like a rocket).. *** Edited 8/1/2005 5:50:55 PM UTC by PeteSpeed2009***

You need to remember BatwingFan, that is a height restriction. Meaning, they could always go back to the county and ask for a waiver of the restriction and builder something taller.

However, if locals fight cell phone towers, I think they willn't have a problem fighting a 500' tall roller coaster.

Be realistic you guys..Six Flags America has only been under the Six Flags, Inc. name for only six years..in that time frame, there is only so much you could do to build attendance, and generate money when you are just starting out. Now, grant it, when SFA first became Six Flags..they had the money to get a hypercoaster. but look at SFA now..certain changes would only allow for SFA to build the way they want to..the park is too tight, first of all...there's only so much you could do to a park that's been around for ages..you know, they got rid of the safari and everything.

Next year they'll continue to expand the waterpark. That's it, folks. Dream all you want of a new coaster but it ain't gonna happen.

I agree Moosh and that isn't even a definite. Honestly, we had a hot summer in Washington, D.C., I could see a scenario where SFI says that was a fluke, let's wait a year before we add anything else to the waterpark. In the mean time, enjoy these new shows for 2006.

Whatever. 3 coasters. There is a lot of land back in Gotham to build, and you could fit a nice compact coaster by Superman's helixs. Like I have said before, they aren't allowed to build so far back because of natural marsh land restrictions. They can and will do it, they have done it before. They are working on getting the height limit changed, and if they can't get it changed, plan B is for a shorter rocket, along with the other two.

Forget the rocket........I want just one lousy B&M be it a floorless,standard looper or even the stand up we lost in favor of Batwing back in 01 I just want one B&M at the park.

Look at the past few seasons as an indicaton of how corporate views this park: since 01 they've been on an alternating schedule for new rides....with HH being rennovated for 05 with two new slides it's a safe bet to say that 06 will probably be an off year with a new ride being added in 07,let's just hop it's a coaster but I'm not gonna hold my breath for one anymore.

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Coaster Lover said:
SFA also falls into an "Urban Expansion" restriction. To avoid the county growing too large too fast, the county limits the number of homes that can be built per year. SFA recieves the trickle down limitation that forbids the park from raising the coaster count by more than one per year. If you remember, SFA built three new coasters in 1999 (Joker's Jinx, Two Face, and Great Chace) but they also removed two coasters that same year (Python and Cannonball). For this reason, they probably will never add three coasters in the same year, unless they recieve some sort of special clearance.

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I would more likely go with the "Urban Expansion" and go along saying that they most likely arn't getting a new coaster next year, and if they do, it ain't going to be three. I meen come on, how many SFI parks, or any park for that matter gets three coasters in one season? But three coasters? No way! Maybe close to the two coasters at SFGAm in 2001. But it was really like two coasters in two years, since DV opened so late in the season. Still, three coasters, no.

-Colin-

I rode Iron Wolf at SFGam and if we were to get a B&M Stand Up, I would ride it but I prefer something else.

The lines (Batwing the exception) at SFA just don't warrant a new coaster. When the staff is doing their job, both trains are running on Batwing and Superman, the longest wait for a ride on any coaster at SFA is no more than 30 minutes. The same with flat rides. The only ride I ever see a line for at SFA is the Tea Cups and Iron Eagle (if it's running). I think the biggest opportunity for expansion at SFA is water rides. The lines are long. Look at Shipwreck Falls, the line extends out the queue and down to the splash bridge. Renegade Rapids extends down the ramp. Penguin's Blizzard River has seen increased capacity with the removal of seat belts and the line still gets long. Look at the water park, they added two new slides this year and the line for Shark Attack still extends down the steps. I don't know what the capacity has been like on TSC this season but it's clearly never going to run at capacity but if with 1/2 the boats on the circuit it still has a line.

A nice RELIABLE log flume and some "family" flat rides would be a nice addition to the park until it's time for the next coaster. However, if anything is added for 2006, it will probably be water park related. The Tornado's are so popular, maybe they will add a second one.

*** Edited 8/2/2005 11:03:00 AM UTC by coasterguts***

Colin, Adding three, even four, coasters in one year has been done before. As mentioned above SFA did indeed get three coasters in a single year, but they got rid of two coasters at the same time. So in all actuality they had a net increase of only one coaster.

Six Flags Ohio added FOUR coasters in one year. But everybody knows that this is an exception. They wanted to compete with CP in northern Ohio and needed to pump up their coaster lineup. And we all saw how that one worked out.

So yes, it doesn't happen often and it usually isn't a good business strategy, but it has happened before.

coasterneice, so if they don't get clearance for their 500 ft. rocket and instead decide to build something along the lines of Storm Runner, what are they going to do with the extra $12 million plus that will not be spending this year? If SFI is giving SFA enough capital to build those three coasters in one year and then SFA builds a much cheaper coaster instead, wouldn't SFA get to do what they want with that money? It's already been budgeted for their park next year, right? So they could build a fourth coaster next year, or would that money get moved to another park at the last minute pending SFA's ability to get approval to build over 200 ft? {rolls eyes}

I know you're young and don't have as good a grasp on how things really work, but as long as you keep this up I will keep telling you that there is no way SFA is getting three coasters next year and especially not the three types you think they're getting.

Honestly I could see SFA ending up with a smaller rocket, a water coaster of some sort and some smaller coaster like a Impulse or maybe a spinning coaster. If they do build those rides though, it will happen over the next several years, not all at once. That's not the way things work, SFI got in big trouble the only other time they tried something like that and they had trouble opening TWO coasters on time at several parks on top of that.

Just be realistic about this, otherwise your going to feel pretty stupid when you realized that the people that work at SFA that were telling you all of this 1) didn't know what the heck they were talking about, or 2) had a lot of fun feeding you a line of B.S. that you took hook, line, and sinker.

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Mamoosh said:
Next year they'll continue to expand the waterpark. That's it, folks. Dream all you want of a new coaster but it ain't gonna happen.

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If the reports are as I hear them, they need it just to keep up with demand.

As with DP. As with HW.

-'Playa

Coasterniece said her uncle told her this. I don't know... If SFA was to add three coasters in 2006, I think all of the area parks would be reacting to this. As of now, only one area park has started on an as yet determined attaction for 2006.

Right, so high park officials are going to tell me BS. It's going to happen.

Right...so a high park official is going to risk his job by telling his neice about three new coasters so she can go spread it all over the internet.

If your uncle is so sure about this and he's willing to let you go public with it than why don't you tell us what position he holds at the park? CEO? VP? Head of Marketing? Operations Manager?

You wanna be believed then put your money where your mouth is!

Meanwhile in FutureMan's comfortably-padded digs...the Man with the Freaky Eyeball Thingie on his chest opens his mouth to say:

*in very-slow-w-w motion distorted sound*

Nooooooooo......

*points to crystal ball, where a massive crow gleefully flies beak-first into a huge loaf of italian bread and takes off, filthy feet dripping flecks of mud, towards coasterniece's house*

-CO

*** Edited 8/2/2005 4:58:09 PM UTC by CoastaPlaya***

Gee Moosh, you have so much more tact than me. I was going to say that the Lemon Chill Guy and coaster ops are not high park officials. Unless she meant she was talking to someone who claimed to be a park official while high.

All it takes is a LITTLE bit of common sense for anybody to see that SFA will not be getting the largest single expansion in Six Flags history next year.

^For once I agree because it just isn't gonna happen.

Right now SFGRADV,SFGRAM & SFMM are the only SF parks that ever get coasters anymore.....SFGRADV in particular seem to be following SFMM's lead in recent years I mean why do you think KK went to SFGRADV & not SFMM? simple SFMM has enough trouble maintaining what they've already got but if corporate uses that plan then SFGRADV will eventually end up in the same boat as SFMM.

Park officials that hold high positions at the park. My uncle isn't one of those, he knows these people.