Posted Tuesday, February 12, 2002 5:28 AM | Contributed by Jeff
Magic Mountain stakes its claim on having the most coasters in the world why Cedar Point says, "Not so fast." While both parks will claim 15 coasters for the 2002 season, Cedar Point questions whether or not Superman: The Escape is actually a coaster.
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They consider Drop Zone at Paramount's Kings Island "the tallest freefalling rollercoaster ride." If apparently any attraction can be considered a rollercoaster ride if it is attached to a "track" then I'll have to agree that S:UE is indeed a rollercoaster, but that's not what I agree with. Cedar Point still has the record!
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but if you want to argue coasters, argue it from the point of view of the designer. if STE was meant to be a roller coaster, it is. if it was meant to be a thrill ride, its a thrill ride. B&M consider their inclined loops to be inversions on some coasters and not others. further than that, Intamin doesn't consider their overbanked turns to be inversions even though its basically the same as B&M's inclined loops. B&M only intend certain inclined loops to be inversions, so only those inclined loops are inversions. Intamin considers its overbanked turns to be special turns, not inversions, so they are turns.
edit: CP needs to get over theirselves and MM needs to grow up.
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a) It rides on a track.
b) It has a train... sorta... that people board like a normal coaster, and restraints like a normal coaster.
c) Wickid Twister is just a 2nd generation Intamin launched coaster... Superman: The Escape is a 1st generation Intamin launched coaster... so they are built by the same company, and essentially the same ride!
d) Intamin is mainly a rollercoaster builder, and this pretty much qualifies for a coaster!!
It's just funny in a way.
I mean, I love Cedar Point and I am totally biased towards that park... however, this is just silly. Superman: The Escape is a honest-to-goodness coaster... same with Wickid Twister!!!
bASS - loves both parks
I tend to think that Cedar Point needs to settle for the tie. 15 a piece, that's life. I mean, if you add a reverse tower to Superman, you've pretty much got an Impulse.
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I think somebody has to come up with an "official" definition of a coaster.
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While other parks have been more ambitious about their expansion, CP has been more traditional and there is nothing wrong with that. Can we settle on CP being the Resort with the most coasters and MM being the Park with the most coasters? Probably not.
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To their credit, at least Cedar Point and Magic Mountain are vying for an official record, even if CP's logic is ridiculous. It's better than SFMW claiming Medusa as a flying coaster in order to compete with Stealth at PGA. Or SFGAm claiming Raging Bull as the world's first hyper-twister, when Fujiyama actually preceded it. It's all PR-generated publicity geared towards the GP. I frankly think it's pretty fun when we enthusiasts can shoot holes in their claims.
Plus, I always find it fun (pointless, yes, but fun) to ponder what constitues a roller coaster. At what point should a double-tracked roller coaster be considered two separate rides? Dueling Dragons - yes. But what about Gemini or the American Eagle? Like I said, pointless to ponder, but fun.
Whatever. Magic Mountain has the record, Cedar Point's just being a baby.
I agree with you there...though SFMM will hold it for all of 4 months.
Then again, CP could have settled this with a CCI family woodie (ala Beastie, Zach's Zoomer) in Frontier Town--both maintaining a solo record and filling a huge gap in their coaster lineup.
SFMM has the record, and I hope they build three coasters next year to actually offically clench it.
Hmmm....Six Flags stock values have tanked from a year or so ago and the stockholders are tiring of their EBITDA mumbo-jumbo. And while CF keeps buying back their stock, Six Flag's senior officers keep selling theirs--even at the lower prices.
Short of the old Vekoma Boomerang and SLC combos, don't hold your breath waiting for multiple coaster installations or staggering 'superpark' transformations. With the possible exception of La Ronde, it just ain't gonna happen. Those days are over.
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