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I vaguely remember MS being an extremely fast, smooth coaster when it first opened. I didn't visit CP for about 4 years and was shocked when I had ridden it about 5 years ago. I was disappointed in the ride and have been ever since.

I can only imagine the maintenance costs for the ride and I am certain the maintenance crew at CP try to do their best but I don't think it's fair to compare MS with Hurler or the Grizzly. The rides really don't compare.

Here's a thought, imagine SOB 5 or 10 years from now. :O

I don't foresee CP taking out MS anytime soon, however, if they wanted to, I imagine a sister park wouldn't mind taking it.

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Fever

I really enjoy the Simpsons. It's just a shame that I am starting to LOOK like Homer.

LR might be sissy but its better then the grizzly because it actually has sustained airtime during a lot of the ride. Also if you like rough em up coasters then Wildcat (which by the way I love to no end) is definatly better then Grizzly. Also, while we are on the subject the Grizzly will never ever ever be as good as the ride it tried to mimic, the Beast. Mean Streak I think is about on par with the Grizz, both are ok coasters but the Grizz is just too short for my liking while Mean Streak would be awesome if they were somehow able to make it smooth enough to allow it to ride faster without the back seat riders being viberated to death.

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Summer 03-CP, HP, Canobie, SFNE, SFWOA, and SFGAm.

I loathe Mean Streak. It is rough, boring, and too long. A complete waste of valuable wood. And I cannot see it get any better, unless it gets a dandy retracking by Intamin.

I even wrote a song about Mean Streak. It goes like this: (To the tune of that Mary Poppins song)

Trim, Triminy

Trim, Trim, Trrreeeeeee
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*** This post was edited by Superman: Ultimate Escape 5/7/2003 5:35:12 PM ***

Great things about Mean Streak

#1 The view of the lake during a nice clear day

#2 A night ride whill make it almost great

#3 Ride length

#4 The sound, hard to charcterise but it sounds great

#5 Its almost always a walk on

Bad Things

#1 THE TRIMS

#2 The high mantinance

I remeber it in 91 it was really smooth, but right now its not as rough as it was in say 98, when CP did let its mantinance slip
*** This post was edited by Sharpel007 5/8/2003 12:18:28 AM ***

I haven't really ridden a rough coaster yet. I don't think Mean Streak is really all that bad. In my town, many people say the park we had (Idora) contained the utlimate wooden coaster, the Wildcat. I was very young when the park closed so I never got the chance to ride it.

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YOUNGSTOWN 2010

I disagree w/ the statement from Junior that all woodies are suppose to be rough. If you ever ride a CCI, you will find a woodie that is alot of fun and rather smooth. Rampage and the Raven are both great examples.

Well, here's a thought to all of you people. Almost any woodie is going to be a tame ride early in the day, and I will admit that Grizzly is a tame ride early in the day. But Wildcat is also a tame ride early in the day, and so is Beast. I have ridden them all, and I would know. The reason I am getting down on Lightning Racer is that it had absolutely no laterals, and I never felt noticed any air at all, other than the occational bit of float. And YES, I was riding it at night. And when I was at Hershey, the coaster with the biggest line in the entire park, steel or wood, was Comet, second to Wildcat, then Sidewinder, then Great Bear. Lightning Racer was a walkon while the others were 45 minutes. But I still can't see how Grizzly is unimpressive. I have ridden 80 coasters now(I know that's not very much, but its enough to know what I'm talking about) and none short of Thunderhawk, Beast, Phoenix, and Screechin' Eagle at Americana have given me a more intense ride. Ah, that's it. I just don't like tame coasters. LR is tame, and I don't care for it, but Griz is intense, so I like it. Don't take that like I'm saying you are sissies, I'm not. Just like in RCT, different people have different intensity preferences. I'd put Griz a 9.5 intensity and Beast a 10, and LR like a 6. LR was a fun ride, and would have been wonderful steelie, it just doesn't have what it takes to gratify a die hard air and lateral fan.

Also, Ihave heard about the Grizz copy of Beast stuff, but I didn't live in the area then, so I don't iknow what that is about. Could anyone explain that to me? Because if your looking for a ride like Beast, then Grizz is not going to match up. Obviously. But if your looking for a great little intense coaster, it will.

OK, now I will stop. I don't want us getting mad at each other. It's just opinions. (Even if yours is wrong) Just kidding, just kidding!

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I am not going back to Cedar Point until they throw Mean Streak's brakes into lake Erie. There should be a law against killing coasters like Cedar Fair does.

I love MS...so go figure. And for those who say burn it down etc. Please!! Come on if you dont like it, dont ride it. Everyone will not always like EVERY single roller coaster.

night ride here is the beast grizz info

PKI and PKD are sister parks

The Beast is in rivertown area of PKI, PKD is in a similar themed area

Both go out into the woods

Both are painted brown, both have a large animal as their namesake.

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Summer 03-CP, HP, Canobie, SFNE, SFWOA, and SFGAm.

That overbraked kiddy woodie the Comet has the longest wait? What are those people smoking? Crack?
*** This post was edited by Pink Floyd Fanatic 5/10/2003 8:51:16 PM ***

petie said:
I love MS...so go figure. And for those who say burn it down etc. Please!! Come on if you dont like it, dont ride it. Everyone will not always like EVERY single roller coaster.

Well said!

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YOUNGSTOWN 2010

I remember waiting two hours for Mean Streak, and the ride being worth it.

I would be a great ride again if they would just release the train from the trim before you are halfway down the first drop. I do realize they cannot get rid of the trims completely due to maintenance.

I do think CP is do for new woodie, but don't touch Mean Streak. I also think CP should devote an entire off-season to focus in on MS and renovate it to the best of their ability. Ask Intamin to help them out.

If CP builds a new coaster, I found a location. The station can be constructed at the south end of Disaster Transport, and the circuit (if it's an out and back) can run between the east side of the main parking lot and the beach. Go for a Shivering Timbers duplicate.

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nightride said:
Well, here's a thought to all of you people. Almost any woodie is going to be a tame ride early in the day, and I will admit that Grizzly is a tame ride early in the day. But Wildcat is also a tame ride early in the day, and so is Beast. I have ridden them all, and I would know. The reason I am getting down on Lightning Racer is that it had absolutely no laterals, and I never felt noticed any air at all, other than the occational bit of float. And YES, I was riding it at night. And when I was at Hershey, the coaster with the biggest line in the entire park, steel or wood, was Comet, second to Wildcat, then Sidewinder, then Great Bear. Lightning Racer was a walkon while the others were 45 minutes. But I still can't see how Grizzly is unimpressive. I have ridden 80 coasters now(I know that's not very much, but its enough to know what I'm talking about) and none short of Thunderhawk, Beast, Phoenix, and Screechin' Eagle at Americana have given me a more intense ride.

Great Bear has two trains. Same for Comet and Wildcat. Hell, Sidewinder only has one. Lightning Racer has FOUR. It doesnt take a rocket scientist (altought I *am* one) to figure out that lines of LR *should* be shorter. The *true* question is, do any of those trains go out empty? Not on the days *I've* been there. LR is getting a considerable amount of riders a day.

And even if LR *was* a "sissy" ride, it is still more fun day in and day out than PKD's Grizzly. Grizzly at the begining of the season is fantastic, but come July, it is a bone-dry squealing POS. LR is always a blast to ride. Granted, not the most extreme, even futher granted, little airtime aside from in the backseat. But still all-around the better coaster, in my very-biased opinion.

And hey, if you want intense, go ride Hercules or The Legend. Every coaster does not *have* to be intense to be fun. And for the record, airtime is strickly OPTIONAL!

That's my opinion, and I'm sticking to it!

lata, jeremy
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Dirtiest line uttered in 1964 flim: "How kind of you to let me come." Eliza Doolittle, "My Fair Lady"

Don't mind me...I'm just standing on my chair in the back of the room applauding...:)

I'll even kick in that the MAINTENACE done to LR is above and beyond....I can't imagine the ride being in any major park chain and still having *competitive* races every time....the ride MAY be "too smooth" for some, lacking in intensity....but the FUN factor....off the hook!
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"Like most problems in life, it's nothing that can't be solved with a little bending"...Bender, Futurama

Well, we all have our own oppinions about what makes a good woodie. I am a big fan of air and laterals, which LR doesn't have, but some would rather go for smoothness I understand. But you have to give Grizzly the fact that it has better air than anything at Hershey. But, hey, I am very bizsed too, so can we just stop argueing.

And yes, I am aware that LR has 4 trains, and it is a new ride, and any new ride will draw lots of people.

I know about the relationship between Beast and Griz, I have ridden them both. (and unless Beast has some serious untrimming, it is no better thyan Griz to me) What I am wondering about is why PKD said it was a copy.

Also, if we are talking about Hershey, I have to say that the small park 1/2 hour away called Williams Grive has a better coaster. Scarier at least, because it is falling over.

Ok, lets stop arguing now, please!

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I am not going back to Cedar Point until they throw Mean Streak's brakes into lake Erie. There should be a law against killing coasters like Cedar Fair does.

Pink Floyd Fanatic said:
That overbraked kiddy woodie the Comet has the longest wait? What are those people smoking? Crakc?

No one is smoking anything @ HersheyPark. I cannot say the same for other corporate parks, just ask GregLeg :)

Seriously though, the fact that Comet may be referred to as a "kiddy woodie" is *precisely* the reason that it has the longest line. It's tame enough that almost everybody *can* ride it, and just exciting enough that everyone *wants* to ride it. In reality, it is almost the perfect "family" coaster.

(begin off-topic rant) It's funny that so many on these and other boards complain that "Park A" doesnt cater to the whole family. But yet, when parks actually install rides that *can* be consumend by the eight to eighty family members, the rides are called "wussy", "girlie" and "sissy". I gues Bart Simpson summed it up best back in the early nineties "Well, you're damned if you do, damned if you dont".

lata, jeremy

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Dirtiest line uttered in 1964 flim: "How kind of you to let me come." Eliza Doolittle, "My Fair Lady"

I think 2Hostyl brings up a great point, HersheyPark does have a trememdous 'gambit' of coasters. There is something for everyone at HP. Yes, LR is smooth as silk, but it is a 'fun' time to race against the other train. If you want a rough woodie, just walk a couple of yards to the west and you get Wildcat.

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Fever

I really enjoy the Simpsons. It's just a shame that I am starting to LOOK like Homer.

Actually, I rode the Comet at Spring Time In The Park (see my TR if you want a detailed description) and it was running absoutely awesome! Rose up from the grave to my #4 woodie now. Speed, insane airtime and an awesome out-of-control feeling. And best of all - little brakeing! Definately kicks Grizzly out of the woods now in my opinion.

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