Maverick work has begun


OhioStater said:

I spent all winter thinkiong of planning a trip to CP just to ride Maverick, but now I'm not so sure. I'm willing to see what happens, but I'm having doubts.

Because a heartline roll was taken out?

O...K....you stay home then.


I was about to say the same thing to him, OhioStater. CP has a lot of great rides, and this is no reason to stay home.



jasari said:
So, what exactly will they be doing with the heart-line track?

Have you been reading? Keep up, will ya?


FTW said:
I'm seriously bummed about the heartline roll being gone. That was one of the main reasons itlooks attractive. Everything else has been done before

I agree. Everything on the Maverick HAS been done before, even just at CP. MF has a fast lift followed by an almost vertical drop as well as overbank turns, Corkscrew has corkscrew elements, TDD and WT both have a launch.

What made this lost inversion so interesting to me was the banking before and the opposite banking after the twist. I want to ride something that does that.


Jeff said:
Huge blow? Uh, did you see the crowds last week? This won't make a damn bit of difference to anyone other than enthusiasts.

I'll agree and I'll disagree, Jeff. Of the non-enthusiast that this may matter to, they will come to CP anyway, because there is a new ride and they are probably frequent guests anyways. They won't like it, but they'll be there anyways.


Touchdown said:
Dex you have clearly not been on Storm Runner yet....it (Maverick) will be one that will leave all the riders smiling at the end and become a must ride everytime you go to CP...

Yes I've been on SR and it is one of my favorite coasters. I also agree, a lot of people will like the ride. I appeals to me slightly less than other potential new coasters they could have built because overall the coaster is not unique inside CP's gates.

Dexter, I think Jasari was asking what is going to happen to the track after its removed from the site? I have no clue - sold for scap?

Jeff said:
Huge blow? Uh, did you see the crowds last week? This won't make a damn bit of difference to anyone other than enthusiasts.

Jeff, I've got to respectfully disagree that it won't make any difference. CP has more than a few signature pictures/images of coasters that help define the park, and I believe the heartline roll along with Maverick's beyond verticle drop could have joined this group as well. From a revenue point of view, I agree, the heartline won't effect CP's bottom line or guest experience, but I would think after investing $21m, CP wants as much as possible from the investment and suspect the hearline's removal is a "huge" blow on a number of different levels to them, beyond the bottom line or guest experience.


Tom

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The only thing that may cause a "huge blow" is the late opening and guests being annoyed by yet another ride that is having issues at the park.

In the pursuit of invention, can be found failure...

1.) Millennium Force - arguably, the best rollercoaster ever built. Multiple issues with cable lift system. Problem eventually solved...

2.) The Bat - Proud member of the coaster lineage giving birth to Big Bad Wolf, one of my favorite suspended coasters; this coaster makes the issues with Maverick seem rather - well - insignificant.

3.) The infamous "Flip Flap" looper from days of old

My point, give the park some freakin' credit for trying to deliver something other than a cookie-cutter piece of crap. Stop whining and just get out there and ride the damn thing. Be glad somebody else is willing to invest millions and millions just to give you a two minute thrill that you'll probably be talking about for years to come. And PUH-LEASE don't insult anyone's intelligence here by saying you're going to have to "reconsider" your trip to CP because some lousy piece of track is being reconfigured.

Point taken, ophotodoc.

I still believe that CP needed other kinds of coasters besides Maverick. GCI dueling/racer comes to mind.

I wouldn't have minded seeing a megalooper named Maverick placed where Maverick is now. Heck, even a clone of the 10 inversion coasters across the pond would not only have been more unique to Cedar Point, but to the USA as well.

The ride still looks like fun, with those side to side changes of direction and especially the theming, which is lacking at Cedar Point (an "amusement" park, I know).

What about the hight requirement change? This was supposed to be a ride that appealed to a younger age as well as adults. 54" is a problem for the intended purpose of the ride. The average kid won't be 54" until they reach about 10 years old. What about the adventurous 6 and 7 year olds? The ride was designed to accommodate them as well, but everything changed after the ride was tested.

I see it as just a blemish that has been handled well by the park. It hasn't and probably will not reach catastrophe level.

Maverick work has begun.
Round Two: DING!
;)

I just want to ride the silly thing.


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dexter said:54" is a problem for the intended purpose of the ride. The average kid won't be 54" until they reach about 10 years old.

Well it's a good thing they only have to be 52" to ride Maverick then.

Cedar Point has said many times why they have more steel coasters at the park than wood - their client base likes steel more. That's not to say they won't put in another woodie, but it makes sense if their customers tell them to put in more steel, that they in fact DO put in more steel.

Kinzel also said he was keeping an eye on El Toro and how it worked out for Great Adventure. It seems they have all the bugs worked out on that beast, so I hope CP looks at one of those. I know it's an Intamin, but I actually LOVE Intamins.

I can't agree more with adding an Intamin woodie at CP like ET - imo ET is one of the best coasters on the planet, including better than many/most steelies. RoS and ET are in a class by themselves imo.

Tom

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I don't think you're going to be seeing an Intamin woodie at Cedar Point any time soon... even if they somehow found 100 acres of open land, I just have this tingley feeling that Cedar Point & Intamin's relationship will start to go a little sour after this coaster fiasco is finished considering their past history of dibocary.

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet, but with the new height limit, the line will probably be 15-20% shorter, no?
^we can only hope.

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ophthodoc said:
1.) Millennium Force - arguably, the best rollercoaster ever built.

Is it still "arguably, the best rollercoaster ever built" if the vast majority of this board would say otherwise?

Just curious. Because I can't imagine that not being the case.

I don't even think it's the best coaster in the park.


SFGAdv lover said:
the line will probably be 15-20% shorter, no?

Seems like it would be 8% taller to me. ;)


Yeah is Good!
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Brian Noble said:
I don't even think it's the best coaster in the park.

Magnum is my favorite steel coaster in the world, so. Yeah.

SFoGswim's avatar
Magnum is arguably the best coaster in the world... so is Millennium Force... so is S:RoS... if someone can argue it, then it's arguable.

Welcome back, red train, how was your ride?!
matt.'s avatar
I'd like to present to you all, Goudrix - arguably the best coaster ever built!

Ok, back on topic, no need to get this one closed, too. ;)

Yeah, I shouldn't have said that. One would think that after all these years I would have learned my lesson.
It wouldn't be as disputed if you had said, "MF is one of the best coasters in the world"...of which it is, in my opinion...HAHAHA.
DantheCoasterman's avatar
Don't worry, I *heart* Mille! ;)

Even after losing the heartline there are plenty more exciting elements on the ride. I think it will fit in just right....

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