Holiday World should ban smoking

Not really Den, banning Cigarettes in Southern Indiana or Indiana period would have about as much luck as banning them in Winston-Salem, North Carolina.

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If given the choice I'd choose a hamburger over a hotdog anyday of the week.

Den, I agree completely that HW is the only place with the *independence* to entertain the idea, and certainly the only one with the "guts" (your word not mine, ROFL) to do so.

But, back to the main point in my first post, the MOST a park could (should?) really do is go to designated smoking areas....Universal certainly does look and smell MUCH cleaner for having them....
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I stept on a lit cigarette at Soak City this year that some brain dead A$$clown left on the ground *FIVE* friggin feat from an ashtray!! It wasnt even stepped on (until I did). Inconisiderate, stupid, moronic A$$clowns. I would say people, but they do not rate as human.

1ej

jdancisin said:
You know, everyone was concerned that banning smoking from restaurants was really going to hurt business. But it didnt. Smoking is seriously on the decline and I would love to see more and more places do what they can to prevent smoking.

How about you ask bar owners in NYC that question? I think they will have a vastly different opinion.

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Ask yourself; When was the last time YOU visited Conneaut Lake Park?

Restaurants I can see, but bars? They aren't exactly a haven of healthy behavior. I expect the place to be smoky and I think anyone going to a bar expects the same thing.

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If given the choice I'd choose a hamburger over a hotdog anyday of the week.

So doesn't anyone think it's ironic that in NYC, in a bar, where there's drinking and all kinds of non-family-oriented activities going on, you can't smoke -- but a few hours' drive away at SFGAdv, where there are many families trying to enjoy a day outside, they can't turn around without being hit in the face by a cloud of smoke?

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A day is a drop of water in the ocean of eternity. A week is seven drops.

Now it's not "that" bad Den.

I do note how ironic it is that SOME of these same people who want to ban tobacco everywhere want to legalize marijuana.
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If given the choice I'd choose a hamburger over a hotdog anyday of the week.

Holiday currently has two smokers dens. One in Splashin' Safari by the Wave and the pther one is in 4th of July best to the Roundhouse.

Have Fun!

Paul Drabek

I do note how ironic it is that SOME of these same people who want to ban tobacco everywhere want to legalize marijuana.

There's quite a difference between the two, namely one being nonadictive and a great deal less harmful.

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Mike Anderson

MAnderson...

You are trying to say marijuana is not addictive? Yea Right...

http://www.marijuana-anonymous.org/

http://www.marijuanaaddiction.info/

http://www.newscientist.com/hottopics/marijuana/

NEXT!

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MAnderson, I have a friend who is extremely allergic to perfumes, to the point where her throat closes up. She never buys magazines because the simple action of opening one that may have one of those perfume cards in it can send her to the hospital.

As for second hand smoke, yes, it can be harmful if one is subjected to it in an enclosed area for long periods of time. Out in the open when it freely disperses quickly, I don't think so. How many people sit in front of a bonfire and inhale THAT smoke?

Again, smoking in queues or in unauthorized areas, even smoking in an area with a lot of kids should not be allowed. But banning smoking in an amusement park entirely wouldn't make most smokers quit smoking, it would just make them quit going to parks.

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Redman, I'd rather not debate the point on a forum dedicated to rollercoasters, but any marijuana addiction is purely psychological, not unlike an addiction to roller coasters. (Though not by any means as safe.) It's something controllable, assuming you have any measure of self-control. One doesn't break down, needing their pot fix.

CPLady, I'm sorry to hear about your friend. Thanks for clearing me up regarding what perfumes can do physically. However, I don't think that makes the point that cigarette smoke is an allergen that can and should be controlled any less valid. That's not to say the same of perfume shouldn't be true.

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Mike Anderson
*** This post was edited by MAnderson 8/4/2003 7:58:02 PM ***

I smoked for 5 years and you tell me that marajuana is not addictive? Please. I wasted 5 years of my life from that stuff and I'll never fully recover.

Do I think it should be legal? Absolutely. Will I ever do it again? Hell no.

You want more proof than that?
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Corey
"Afterward, services resumed for about 20 minutes until the congregation realized the church was on fire." - www.channel3000.com
*** This post was edited by rOLLocOASt 8/4/2003 8:28:56 PM ***

Are you joansing right now for a doobie?

Hemp - it's for desert

I'm sure you have you own take on it from experience, but every smoker I know smokes out of habit, not addiction, and can easily stop for months at a time should a drug test be in the near future.

In any case, this point is irrelevant, even moreso on a site like Coasterbuzz. If you reread the post I made where I quoted, I believe, Magnum Force I simply stated my opinion as to why some would limit smoking in public places and try to legalize marijuana. I stand by my statement that it's less addictive and less harmful than traditional smoking. Am I right? I could point out dozens of studies that would support me. Are you right? You could point out dozens of studies that support you. It's a question up in the air, scientifically speaking, so I can only speak from my experiences. Yours may differ.

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Mike Anderson
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Thrillerman - Nope, but I could definitely use a beer ;)

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Corey
"Afterward, services resumed for about 20 minutes until the congregation realized the church was on fire." - www.channel3000.com

"Based on the location of the park Den, I just don't see it happening...demographics..."

Hey rollergator! Could you explain this quote of yours? I just don't get it!

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Give me wood! :-)
328 and counting!

Me too, but I haven't touched a drop in 15 years. It's cool though. more for everyone else right?!!

Wood - Beer - Hem... oh heck, I'm all messed up now because of this topic

Kennywood and Idlewild ban smoking in queue lines, there's a big ashtray outside the entrance and the wristbands say 'please no smoking in ride lines.' I think most parks do that, and ban it in the kiddieland area too.

As for on the midways, I've never had a problem with being overwhelmed or smelling like smoke. I don't smoke but I like the smell of it.
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*** This post was edited by carrouseler 8/4/2003 10:21:00 PM ***

Every park that I am aware of bans smoking in queues.

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If given the choice I'd choose a hamburger over a hotdog anyday of the week.