Holiday World should ban smoking

...True, but most people ignore the signs.

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Whenever you can ride a roller coaster and experience 15 spots of intense airtime, you know you're on a good coaster. (see: Phoenix)

1.) I'm pretty sure I'm addicted to cigarettes, but I was never addicted (physically anyways) to Marijuana. I smoked Marijuana for longer than I did cigarettes and had no withdrawals symptoms.

2.) For those who continue to believe that second hand smoke kills please do some research on the subject of logical fallacies. Particularly the cause and affect fallacy. This will show why it is impossible to determine whether or not second hand smoke kills.

3.) no one here supports or endorses smoking in designated non-smoking areas. Personally, I can't stand being in a restaurant trying to eat when someone is smoking nearby. Due to my wife's allergies I cannot be around my wife withing approximately one hour of smoking and I can't smoke in the house. I can handle designated non-smoking areas.

4.) If it weren't for HW's location near the tobacco belt, I think they could go non-smoking. They aren't that large a park and they are more family oriented than most. If they were located in Michigan, they could probably have smoking policies similar to most outdoor sports arenas and not suffer. I know that at MSU, the smoking policy has not affected sales, (however, it could be argued that the "Smoker" policy has).

The only thing I want to express is that my son's asthma IS affected by smoke.

Most people who have a vice will find anything to justify their habit (even stating that "the reason they smoke is they can filp the butt into a rattlesnake's mouth so it will not bite them").

If you want a source- a cigarette company phillip morris has posted their opinion on this matter: http://www.pmusa.com/health_issues/secondhand_smoke.asp

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Let the good times roll - Zingo

The Mayo Clinic has a page on second hand smoke as well:

http://www.mayoclinic.com/invoke.cfm?objectid=055661AE-8008-40C8-A8526ED085B5CCC1

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Let the good times roll - Zingo

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Zingo said:
If you want a source- a cigarette company phillip morris has posted their opinion on this matter: http://www.pmusa.com/health_issues/secondhand_smoke.asp

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Check the second page near the middle.

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I lied.

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1EyedJack said:
Inconisiderate, stupid, moronic A$$clowns.

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Your use of assclowns is not appropiate.

"Assclown" should never be said unless prefaced with "no-talent."

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- John
I snap flyers.

So when do we outlaw farting or burping. Both ruin my experience and help deplete the ozone layer. Besides the gases are potentially explosive.

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Ah yes the great sar"chasm"

Parks are giant social areas with rides, games, food, etc thrown in, so whatever some people normally do in public, i.e smoke, make out, wear sweatpants in the middle of July, etc., they will undoubtedly do at a park.

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KWTM

I couldn't see a 100% smoking ban as stated above due to demographics, its location is in redneck central. But I do think all parks shold institute designated smoking areas like most newer major sport venues, this would solve a lot, first off it would eliminate cigarrette buts all over the place, plus it would keep smoke away from the non-smokers. As for myself I smoke but am not a heavy smoker, I don't smoke in queue lines, and I never smoke around children. But with everything from alcohol to smoking your going to run into worthless people who lack respect for other human beings. I personally take more offense to the dress codes that are rarely enforced at these parks, I don't care if your a super model or a 400lb person wear clothes, I can't believe some of the crap people wear along with the people with there A$$ hanging out of their pants. Its really bad when you have a kid who can't be more than 12 dressed like a hooker. Then you have the people that have to scream obscenities at the top of thier lungs. You have to wonder where it all comes from, it comes from their homes and their lack of parents, my parents would of killed me if I acted like half of these people. I remember going to parks with my parents and grandparents, if my little brother or I got out of line at all they pulled us off to the side and basically threatened to take us home never to return. But then again you have to look at the parks the're out to make money and enforcing these rules 100% would cut down on their profits.

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I couldn't see a 100% smoking ban as stated above due to demographics, its location is in redneck central.

Actually the area HW is in isn't very redneck at all. Look at the majority of the park workers to get an idea of the local residents. However the people that come from across the river are incredibly redneck. I was there the other day and noticed quite a bit of KY license plates in the parking lot, and when I got in the park there was so much whitetrash in the park I was getting grossed out. Luckily most of them left in the afternoon and crowd became pretty normal.
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I think HW should ban Den

Chuck, who realizes there are people who have no respect for anyone but is one of the Majority who obey the rules and smoke only where allowed and doesn't blow smoke in peoples faces.

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Charles Nungester.
It's official Lesourdsville Lake is closed for 2003

Ok, here is one for ya for all you people who say second hand smoke is worse for you than the smoker.

The Antique car ride at the park puts out more harmful emmissions than if every visitor at the park was a smoker.

Your driving to the park puts out more harmful emmissions than one smoker would give in a lifetime.

People need to get a grip. If someones breaking the rules politely tell them to stop. THEN GET RUDE!

Chuck

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Charles Nungester.
It's official Lesourdsville Lake is closed for 2003

Ok

Smokings Banned.

Perfume is banned.

Farting is banned.

Pollen is banned.

Bees are banned.

Driving to the park is banned.

Persian Kittys are banned.

Kids being cool with little torches are banned. They are called arsonist.

Did I miss something?

What about ?

Peanuts? Believe it or not, people highly alergic to peanuts can die just from touching a table with leftover peanut stuff or ingreedients from peanuts in food they don't know has it.

Dust Mites? Everyone probably has a million of them on you right now unless you just took a bath. Then you probably only got half a million on you.

Foul Language? It's more annoying to me, Expecially in a family setting to hear the MF, GD, JC in every other friggin word mentioned out of some of these peoples mouths.

B.O. If anything should be banned it should be B.O. I about pass out from the stench of some people.

Chuck

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Charles Nungester.
It's official Lesourdsville Lake is closed for 2003

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Lord Gonchar said:
Again, why smoking? Refer to my perfume comment in the last post. Same thing.

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Why smoking? Because most of the people in this world are sick of smoking. They are sick of the smell created by smoking, they are tired of coming home from clubs smelling like smoke, they are tired of the way that inconsiderate smokers act, they are tired of the ugly cigarette butts that are covering our world, and we are tired the way nauseous feeling we get encountering second hand smoke.

We dont care about perfume, because compared to smoking it is a relatively small inconvenience that is encountered on a infrequent basis.

And there is no way that anyone here can honestly say that second hand smoke has no health risk. I know that the actual facts have not been discovered yet, though most likely the reason for this is that the Tobacco money is slowing down the process. But if anyone doubts that when the results are really released that they will be anything but bad, they are in serious denial. Inhaling a cloud of smoke is not good for any living thing.

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Mac Forever.

I think they should ban spandex in the parks. There are very few people who look good in spandex, contrary to what the wear-ers think.

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jdancisin said:

And there is no way that anyone here can honestly say that second hand smoke has no health risk.

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I honestly believe that in an open air setting such as an amusement park that the effects of second hand smoke are statistically insignificant unless the smoker directly inhales on you from a "face to face" distance and you inhale deeply as the smoke comes your way - essentially "shotgunning" the smoke. Anything short of that and it may be annoying, but I do honestly believe it's not the health risk that these scare tactic campaigns and "studies" are trying to lead you to believe.

Again, why smoking? What about the 100 other things you contact, inhale or intake in a single day that slowly kills you on a level much worse than second hand smoke ever could?

Unless, of course, you're a bunny. As Ryan pointed out earlier, bunnies are severly affected by smoke. Smoking kills bunnies. That's why you don't see large families of bunnies at amusement parks...that and the fact that they usually don't meet the height requirements to ride most things.

EDIT - Excellent Pac-Man Fever shirt in your pic!

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*** This post was edited by Lord Gonchar 8/5/2003 10:46:50 AM ***

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jdancisin said:
Because most of the people in this world are sick of smoking.

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Really? I bet that 'most of the people in this world (outside of the U.S.)' would disagree.

Forget about banning smoking, pefrume, BO, offensive language, farting, breathing, pollen, peanuts, mullets, etc. We should just pass some legislation that 'bans' 'any behavior that one finds annoying.' Then everyone would be happy.

But I saw a bunny at HP (we even got his pic, under Wildcat), and a bunny at WoF near TimberWolf....

Even got to ride the Tommy G Robertson with *a* bunny....BUGS!

bill, absolutely LOVES spandex....:)

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Charles Nungester said:

Foul Language? It's more annoying to me, Expecially in a family setting to hear the MF, GD, JC in every other friggin word mentioned out of some of these peoples mouths.

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What? I personally *love* to hear people talking about Jesus Christ (though that might be because I moonlight as a Sunday School teacher ;))

But anyway, I'm with chris, let's ban everything that someone ANYONE finds annoying. Maybe then we will *finally* be rid of Care Bears, Backstreet Boys, and people with big gums and small teeth...

lata, jeremy

--who would rather smoke a joint than a cigarette..

Face it your problems aren't smoking its just the morons that lack any type of respect in general. Swimming in Lake Erie once is probably worse than chain smoking for 60 years.

I think the real issue should be BO. I shower with soap why can't everybody. Last year I believe or the year before I was behind this 400+ lb ghetto mama at SFWOA and I'll tell you I stayed back atleast 10 ft and still a repulsive odor was coming off this beast, it was a month with out a shower, sweaty, burger king, kfc smelling beast, I never new a living creature could smell that bad. I dunno if any of you guys have ever been at an autopsy or smelled a burned body, but this smell was ten times worse, I don't even know how the heck she even fit on the ride, I guess the fat just molds itself around the seat? I wonder if the whole clan smells this bad or they pulled her in a trailor here. I couldn't imagine sitting in a bus or in the same vehicle with her even if it was a convertable. BO has got to be the single most disturbing thing to be around, worse than line jumpers, worse than the basketballs, worse than foul mouth hooker dressing 12 year olds. You can't even just turn your head, or say hey can please put that out or blow it in a diffrent direction, BO just lingers. It can make people vomit or make them so sick there stomach is to screwed up to ride any more rides. I couldn't smell that bad if I tried my hardest it just couldn't be possible to imitate that something that must come natural to some people. To me thats one of the bigger problems at parks not smoking.

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