Holiday World should ban smoking
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Song for the day - " One a those days - Whitney Houston"
Anyway, as far as Holiday World (or any other park) and smoking, it's all about their rules, like anything else, be it smoking, line jumping, parking, etc. While secondhand smoke causes me many physical issues, I would not presume to try to force an amusement park to conform to my needs in this case. They have too many people to please to worry about this overly.
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Harry Baer IV
"Do you think it was a bear?"
"A bear? Bears are sweet! Besides, you ever seen a bear with 40 foot feet?"
And I won't be able to have any fun till I do.
Thanks!
Chuck, sitting here quietly trying not to annoy anyone. Oh wait, The internet is banned because porn is harmful to your health. Coasters and coaster chat is dangerous. MOMMY!
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Charles Nungester.
It's official Lesourdsville Lake is closed for 2003
I just felt the need to post because I am compelled by the sheer lack of knowledge by so many. People hear a little soundbite on tv and then think they're a master of a subject. They walk around spewing their little factiods looking like deer staring in to headlights.
"Second hand smoke kills." Oh yeah? WHO? Name one freakin' person that second hand smoke has killed. You can't. Know why? Because there ARE NONE!
I'm not a smoker, but I'm an American, dammit, and I'm sick of people's rights being trampled on just because of what some people consider incorrect for the time being until they think of something new.
Spare me trying to lead me down your path of healthy, homogonized, white bread living. I'm doing just fine on my own.
There are a whole lot of annoying things out there. It's just easier to pick on smokers because they get out of breath during arguments.;)
(EDIT: I hope that didn't make me sound too Republican.)
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Come on, fhqwgads!
*** This post was edited by kpjb 8/5/2003 12:57:35 PM ***
And just because it isn't necessarily proven that second hand smoke is harmful to others (maybe it is proven), it doesn't mean that it can't harm a bystander. I'm sick of hearing the excuse that "it's not proven" so it's no big deal to smoke directly near others. Until it's proven that it can't harm others, I suggest some of you be quiet.
-Ben
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That 70's Show Rocks, but coasters arre okay too. :)
Chuck, wheres the ballot?
Oh and Ben, While your right in a way, Everything you eat, drink, breath is slowly killing you. Sad but true.
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Charles Nungester.
It's official Lesourdsville Lake is closed for 2003
The real thing, though, is do smokers not think of those who are close to them? Not for second hand smoke, but for killing themselves slowly. Its not fun for anyone, friends, family, the person themself, to watch the person slowly wither away because of lung, throat, mouth, whatever cancer. It just sucks, why would anyone want to possibly put their family through it if they knew they could reduce the risk of it happening?
If you are squemish, don't go to the above link. If you want your lungs to look like the inside of a burned out building, keep on smoking.
I hope none of you have to experience the slow, agonizing death of a loved one who smoked. And, honestly, I hope that those of you who do smoke don't experience it yourself.
Is there a smoker out there who will sponsor me via the aforementioned "shotgun technique". I prefer an 18-35 year old hottie, if possible.
Well, I'm sure the smokers are convinced now. I better sell any Phillip Morris stock before they go bankrupt.
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Come on, fhqwgads!
The toxic effects of cigarette smoke are also well documented. Even Phillip Morris now admits this. If you think that second hand smoke in a queue line isn't harmful to others you have never seen my daughter on the ground in a queue line with an asthma attack from some @#$% blowing smoke in her face. You have also chosen to ignore the well documented scientific studies that show the serious health effects. Heck, nicotine has been banned from use as an insecticide because it is too dangerous.
I don't mean to sound callous, and I'm sorry that your daughter has such a condition, but that doesn't mean that the other 99.9% of the population should bow down to her needs.
It's your job as her parent to protect her. Not mine, not some amusement park's, and not the government's.
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Come on, fhqwgads!
The "gentleman" who did this is lucky it wasn't MY daughter. I would not have been kind in my remonstrances.
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Harry Baer IV
"Do you think it was a bear?"
"A bear? Bears are sweet! Besides, you ever seen a bear with 40 foot feet?"
kbjb for PRESIDENT!
I agree. I'm writing in kpjb on the 2004 ballot. In fact I'd like to contribute to your campaign - where can I send the blank check? Just fill in whatever you need ;)
Until it's proven that it can't harm others, I suggest some of you be quiet.
I choose to speak...loudly! :) That's scary thinking. That's Ed Markey thinking. No one has really proven that roller coasters absolutely cannot harm you. No one has proven that they do. If you're going to use that approach, stay away from these steel machines of death - they're killing the children! Perhaps you missed the deatils of the study done by the World Health Organization - http://www.forces.org/articles/files/passive1.htm
I choose to look at it from exactly the opposite angle - Until it's proven that it can harm others, be quiet!
Not for second hand smoke, but for killing themselves slowly.
I still say there are already countless things you (or anyone) does on a regular basis that it slowly killing you. Unless you grow your own food organically and prepare it yourself, you're ingesting more chemicals than any human should. Processed foods, frozen foods, preserved foods - read the label sometime. Most of that crap is barely food. Trust me, those chemicals aren't exactly your friend. You'd probably be healthier in the long run eating random pieces of crud from the gutter.
And yes, smoking isn't exactly healthy either. But it's not the guaranteed killer people want you to think it is either. What about people like George Burns who smoked regularly and lived to be 100? What if 5 years from now I'm blindsided by a big ol tractor trailer? There's a zillion scenarios in my life that don't end in smoking being the cause of my death. Unless, of course, I'm crossing the street and drop my cigarette and when I bend down to pick it up that tractor trailer in question blindsides me - then I guess you can tell people smoking killed me.
Everything kills you. Perhaps we should stop time because people are unnecessarily aging, thus killing us all. As soon as you're born, you start dying.
But I saw a bunny at HP (we even got his pic, under Wildcat), and a bunny at WoF near TimberWolf....Even got to ride the Tommy G Robertson with *a* bunny....BUGS!
Those weren't bunnies, those were *rabbits* - rabbits love amusement parks ;)
And I hate to break this to you, but there was a person inside the Bugs Bunny suit, gator...
Someone comfort 'gator - he's crying!
who would rather smoke a joint than a cigarette...
It warms my heart to see so many buzzers echoing this in this thread :)
Lord Gonchar
- CB posterboy for living fast and dying young :)
....oh, and Bugs was huffing on that spliff like no tomorrow...lucky for him he didn't want to contaminate the costume with the smell, so he *never* inhaled...;)
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At the very least it's not guaranteed death if you put the gun to your head and fire.
But, hey, that's where I draw the line. I'm against shooting yourself in the head at parks. Although, I suppose it in theory doesn't effect the physical health of others around you (unless you're a terrible inaccurate shooter), so maybe I am for shooting yourself at the park - heck, sometimes I actually catch myself thinking "that guy needs shot" when at the park.
Maybe you're on to something :)
I'm all for a persons right to do what they want to themselves. Be it smoke, drink, have unprotected sex, piecing their head, tattooing their genitals with a safety pin and a ballpoint pen - whatever twirls your beany. I'm against smoking in restricted areas (although the bar laws in places like NYC and Cali make little sense to me), I have NEVER smoked in a queue line, I've never blown smoke in the direction of other people. I even make a point to exhale in an general upward direction in public places (smoke does rise and this keeps it as far away from everyone as possible) I understand non-smokers and smokers alike may not want to sit in my haze as I puff away addicted to my "sin stick" (or "cancer stick” - your choice).
What I am against is the holier than thou attitude against smokers. Yeah, I’m killing myself. Why do you care? Do you want to see this nice hunk of phlegm I hacked up the other day? If I’m sitting on one side of the bench smoking and going out of my way to do my best to not bother you, I’m not only exercising my personal rights as a human being in America (what few are left), but I’m also showing courtesy for the human beings around me.Too bad the same understanding and courtesy isn’t always given back. :(
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Dorney Park Visits in 2003: 15
On a personal note, I frown upon smoking at any public place, but you just have to take it. More and more people have stopped smoking and the number will continue to decrease, but with illegal drugs, the number is going up and up. People need to wake up and smell the coffee. Smoking is proven bad for your health, just see the ingredents. It's amazing. Also, everyone will die eventually, but, smoking dramatically increases your chances of SOME illnesses, but not all.
Thank you,
~Kyle
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