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Are you sure about that flyer? I kinda doubt Hersheypark would build a 195ft. tall flyer. As far as that layout goes, it pretty much matches the current layout of the survey markings at the park. I just don't remember seeing anything like that mess at the bottom left corner. If it does go left out of the station in that layout and that sharp turn is a drop, that is going to be a great drop, as it is diving down the large hill that Dry Gulch Railroad crosses on the large bridge. Whatever this turns out to be, I can't wait to ride it.

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THANK YOU J2S! I was reading every response and saying "Um since when would Hershey build a 195ft flyer?" But no one other than you said it!

All that stuff that was posted about the ride "having a crest" and being "195 ft tall" was true wasn't it? I mean obviously it will have a crest, but 195ft tall to *me* waves bye-bye to a B&M flyer, that's for darn sure.

And Moosh, I thought the same as you did in regards to "why the hell would a park purchase a ride that is 100% proven to *not* work?!" A theory I came up with (which you are fully welcome to shoot holes in) is that they didn't KNOW it would be that unreliable, given the fact that Xcel barely opened a year ago (June 20 something, right?). I'm assuming this coaster has been in planning longer than last June, therefore, "no turning back" or what not....does this make any sense?

Joe, as confused by that little squiggle in the supposed layout as anyone

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Well, is it possible that Hersheypark needs to pull an Alpengeist here? That is, the lift may not approach 195', but the total elevation change does?

That part of the park is quite hilly, and it'd just be silly not to use that terrain to the ride's advantage. That's why I think you'd be looking a t a left turn/first drop combination down into the valley that the creek runs in, a climb up the opposite hill into an inversion, a dive back into the valley, a climb back up the hill, third dive, some swooping S-turns and the brakes.

Great Bear grabs an extra 25' or 30' feet of height on its drop, of course. So, given that, maybe you'd be looking at a lift of similar size -- 140-155' and the added special bonus of the topography.

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"I kinda doubt Hersheypark would build a 195ft. tall flyer."

First, that height has not been confirmed. Second, if the layout is correct the first drop is going to swoop over existing attractions and walkways, so the bottom of the drop would have to be significantly raised for clearance. It's entirely possible that while the lift is 195* high the drop is much shorter.

Another point - that same report that said "a crest of 195 feet" also mentioned the ride would extend to the Kissing Tower, yet that layout does not.

Whatever this ride is I'm betting on something proven to work reliably at other parks.

mOOSH

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I'm sticking with the idea that *renderings* are rarely if ever NEAR accurate...

You're always sticking, Gator ;)

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Stickin' and grinnin' Mooshie....:)

Assuming that layout is even remotely correct, there's only one type of coaster that could pull off the type of turnaround suggested in the bottom left corner...

http://www.rcdb.com/installationgallery1976.htm?Picture=1

compare and contrast. It looks very much like a modified B&M pretzel loop... dive from the lift towards the ground, back up to the top of the loop, swoop to the bottom and then a left hand turn towards the rest of the layout. I've done some drawings and can't figure out any way for a rocket coaster to pull off a maneuver even close to the one in the layout.

That, coupled with moosh's valid points about the reliability of existing rockets, makes me put my money on a flyer.... if this drawing is accurate.

Perhaps a rocket (that would go to the kissing tower) was planned, but they chickened out with TTD's problems. The only problem with this theory is, of course, that coaster manufacturers can't just pull custom layouts out of their butts at the drop of a hat and production schedules are planned often years in advance.

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rollergator said:
I'm sticking with the idea that *renderings* are rarely if ever NEAR accurate...

But it was on the INTERNET! Come on, get a clue, someone wouldn't have gone through all the trouble if it weren't for reals. ;)

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I am not saying that I believe anything at this point, but if it were a flyer. Watching it fly above, through, and around existing attractions..That is what a flyer should really do. Make you feel like your flying through the park..not just flying around a course.

But I for one am going to wait until the ride is announced before I start assuming what this will be.

Sean

-who will likely be getting an HP season pass next season-

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Viper423 said:
Has anyone given thought to it may possibly be an Intamin Junior Hyper. The long straight section after the station is obviously the lifthill or launch track. But how about a lift hill with a drop like Expedition Ge-Force? That is just a thought. This could also be a B&M hybrid of a junior hyper/looper. It can be almost anything right now.
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It will be a B&M, we just dont know what kind. About the Immelmann shaped part, what about the rumored Flying Dive Loop???

With everything that has gone wrong with the Intamin rocket coasters, why would Hershey Park even put one in? A B&M flyer would make a lot of sense considering the only ones out there are pretter darn short and the average tourist won't care, "Oh my gosh, it's a flying coaster, lets go!" They wouldn't care if it's short. Also, HersheyPark is really a park for all ages and that really rules out the rocket coaster. Because Hershey already has SuperDooperLooper, why would they put in another looper, it's a possibility, but not a strong one in my opinion. But something like Expedition GeForce, they would need a lot more land to do that, and the layout would be different.

And remember, that is just my opinion.

...maybe not...

"But something like Expedition GeForce, they would need a lot more land to do that, and the layout would be different".

Says who?

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Why wouldn't Hershey put a flyer in? 'Cause a park not to far away just put in one (SFGADV).

Looking at the layout, it's not going to be the longest, nor will it be the heighest if they're using the traditional lift hill.

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Hershey put in Bear long after GAdv. had B:TR. Then Dorney which is right smack between the two, put in Talon.

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*** This post was edited by ApolloAndy 7/18/2003 5:04:14 PM ***

So the lesson in ApolloAndy's words is to be the last in the area to do something and it'll be the best :)

I guess if this is a flyer, we'll have to wait for Dorney to get a great one.

I believe the pattern goes:

Jersey gets the first one.
Hershey get the unique one.
Dorney gets the best one.

I kid. I kid because I love.

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ApolloAndy said:
Hershey put in Bear long after GAdv. had B:TR. Then Dorney which is right smack between the two, put in Talon.

True, I didn't think about HP marketing it as the only one of it's type in PA.

But, don't forget that Talon was marketed as the tallest, longest (and fastest?) in the Northeast.

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Lord Gonchar said:

Jersey gets the first one.
Hershey get the unique one.
Dorney gets the best one.

That would be great if it were to happen again!

Anyway, I believe B&M is correct, but flyer is not. I think it is going to be a hyper of some sort, but the twisted mess at the bottom of what we believe is the first drop has me a little confused.

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