Hersey park's new coaster lyout revealed!
SLFAKE said:
And the evidence of this is? A few markings on the ground of an as of yet unidentified coaster?Were this year's additions any indiction? The Claw, Frontier Flyers, Kiddie Pirat and Kiddie Scrambler (1 thrill ride, one "family" ride, and two definate kiddie rides). Gone are Cyclops, Conestoga, Starship America, and (I think) the bull dozerz / earth movers, or what ever that kiddie ride was called. (that's 1 thrill ride (cyclops), 1 thrill/family ride (conestoga), 1 family/kids ride (starship america), 1 kiddie ride (earth movers)... I think the earth movers went to Dutch Wonderland while Starship America either went to Dutch Wonderland or is in storage). So, what is the score... Conuting Conestoga as "thrill" and Star Ship America as Kid/Kiddie... Thrill Rides +1, -2 (-1 net), Family Rides +1, -0 (+1 net), Kid/Kiddie Rides +2, -2 (+0 net). Using that math... Hersheypark's line up stayed the same, but the total number of Thrill type flats dropped by 1 while Family Rides picked up 1, and Kid / Kiddie Rides stayed the same. Even IF you would count Conestoga as a "family ride", you would have no change in the toal numbers in these categories. I hardly call that evidence of "evolving into more of a "thrill" park."
I could be proven wrong, but history shows that nothing too extreme will be coming to Hersheypark, and that Hershey also likes to stick to either "proven technology" or else technology that, while not common, is not too "unreliable." (Aside from Carowinds, only other setpoint interactive water coaster in the form of RollerSoaker, and, back in 1977, the only coaster on the east coast in sooperdooperlooper. While uniuqe for their time, neither of these used really revolutionary and unproven (or proven releatively unreliable) technology).
I am going by the word of the head matinence guy at Hershey, who was not wrong about Lightning Racer or Roller Soaker. After seeing the layout and talking with a few people, I'm 100% sure it's an Intamin Rocket. You don't have to believe me, and again, I don't really care if you do/don't.
Cyclops is currently in the employee parking lot in pieces. From what I know, it is currently for sale and if not sold, Hershey may place it back in the park. There were 2 kiddie rides moved to DW, the other was Dizzy Drums. The Conestoga was getting to costly to maintain, and I would hardly call it a "family" ride, as you had to be at the very highest candy bar to ride it (or a Twizzler if you had a parent). It was also replaced by an up-charge ride. Starships America also had low ridership (and I'm guessing it was also expensive to maintain) and a few times I didn't even see it operating last year. Besides, who said Hershey had to replace the rides they took out this year with thrill rides right away? They're progressively changing. I'm sure over the years we'll see more thrill rides coming to Hershey. Heck, we've had tons of thrill rides added, and advertisements seem to focus on those rides more and more each year.
Also, Roller Soaker was completely unreliable. Every day I went to the park last year, it broke down around mid-afternoon. In fact, this year it is using a new computer program.
Edit: I just relized after heading to HP today that Dizzy Drums were still there. I could've sworn another kiddie ride was removed. Oh well, my mistake :)
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SLFAKE said:
sdl: Second looping coaster in the country, but the real innovation of the coaster was the loop... no one knew what it was like to go upside down, true enough... BUT... the technology was basically proven.
Actually, SDL used a braking system not used on any other roller coaster before it.
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"If we knew how safe roller coasters were, we'd lose their thrill" - Daniel Keller
What is Jeff's old saying... "Those that talk, don't know... and those that know don't talk?"
If I remember correctly, I do think in one of my "calculations", I did count Connestoga as a thrill ride. While my long winded and often confusing example does not really disprove that they are not moving to a more "thrill park" atmosphere... neither does it prove that they are "progressively" going that way either.
Has Hershey been getting more and more thrill rides... absolutely. Intense flat rides like Chaos and The Claw... coasters such as Great Bear, Wild Cat, Lightning Racer (as much as some of the jaded folks out there hate to admit... while not exactly white nuckle rides, they are hardly tame). They have never turned away from "thrilling" rides... good example... the Comet built in 1946. Again, by today's standards it is a "mild" wooden coaster, in its day it was the big thrill. Other flat rides over the years that have come and gone were the same... In their day thrilling, but by today's standards rather mild (paratrooper, tip-top, rodeo(trabant), etc)... But NONE of those really pushed the envelope of new and unproven technology. The technology behind them worked.
As for sdl and its new breaking system... a ride improvement... but an innovation and prototype? And Lightning Racer used relatively un-tested Mellinium Flyer trains... AGAIN I REPEAT... The basic elements of the coaster remained unchanged. Was the breaking system new... okay... but I would hardly think that qualifies it as a "prototype" coaster. And actually... in 1977 sdl had a lot of down time as well (in fact, I think I read somewhere that it left J.Bruce McKenny and his wife and other "VIP"'s sitting on the lift hill during its first, or one of its first "public" runs)... but again I ask... because of new technology or because of a new ride installation?
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Kind of hard to take a post as objective if a park or coaster name is part of the "user name"
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"Nope, B&M."
"You're wrong. I know it's an Intamin Rocket."
"Um, no....B&M."
"Dude, I've seen pics...it's a rocket."
"Hershey isn't a thrill park...it won't be a rocket."
"Hershey is *so* a thrill park."
"No it's not."
"Yes it is!"
"No it's not..I did the math."
OMG...do you people have *any* idea how idiotic you all sound arguing over this?
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A random Mooshter's Dawntionary listing: Glibido - all talk and no action.
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My adjectives to describe that break on the second turn of Comet is a bit stronger than "Stupid" (but if I would type it here it would simply be shown as *** ***** ****** ) and I agree, if that break would be gone, I think you would have a Coaster that would rival any in the thrill department.
In response to Mamoosh's "OMG...do you people have *any* idea how idiotic you all sound arguing over this?"
Ya' know... you are right. It is rather idiotic now that I sit back and read all of it (didn't sound that way then I typed it... but then again, nothing sounds all that idiotic when compared to work... which is what I should be doing right now). So I guess the only real equation that is of any importance in this is... Aug 5 - July 21 = 15 days to the only announcement regarding this that counts.
I'll hold any further opinions until then.
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Kind of hard to take a post as objective if a park or coaster name is part of the "user name"
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Mamoosh said:
OMG...do you people have *any* idea how idiotic you all sound arguing over this?
Just wait till the new Vekoma is announced! All the B&M/Intamin debate will be moot.
chris - hates that trim on Comet.
mOOSH
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A random Mooshter's Dawntionary listing: Glibido - all talk and no action.
Glad you agree!
MI-CG sez: "lay the rumors."
How does one do that?
mOOSH
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A random Mooshter's Dawntionary listing: Glibido - all talk and no action.
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A random Mooshter's Dawntionary listing: Glibido - all talk and no action.
I've read the blueprints. It's a 300-ft. tall Vekoma rollerskater.
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A random Mooshter's Dawntionary listing: Glibido - all talk and no action.
Since you do know its a rocket. Do you think that the proposed layout we have seen jives with your idea? I'm not pointing fingers, but just wondering if you think that its crap or if it is 'the' layout.
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