GL's Steel Venom probably also on it's way out....

FWIW, it is still mentioned on their website whereas XF is not.

If they remove it, I'm not even sure that they'd send it anywhere else. The thing basically destroyed itself last year, hence it being down for much of the second half of the season.

GL still has way more coasters than most parks its size. So, I'm not sure why everyone is complaining so much. Ohio is spoiled with the number of coasters it has. And, the number of quality coasters too. Not just the same old clones like most Six Flags cities/states have. If I'm not mistaken, you could go to Cedar Point, Geauga Lake AND King's Island and not ride the same coaster twice (unless you re-ride of course).

Now I get confused with the SV rumors and Dorney...

Does not Dorney have some type of sound-restriction with the neighbors? If venom is put there, it will be the loudest thing in the park. I could hear venom from the other side of the lake, the shopping malls across the street, etc... It just seems dorney builds many of their rides to respect the noise pollution then they would put in venom?

I find it hard to believe. *** Edited 1/30/2007 11:41:08 PM UTC by SteveWoA***

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Rob Ascough said:
I don't get this. Attendance is sagging at the park, so the solution is to get rid of reasons for people to go to the park?

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I think they might be the other way around. The attendance is sagging at the park, so go in a new direction from what they've been.

^^ Yes with the neighbors so close to the park, it has always been speculated that is why Dorney does not have a launched coaster. Talon and I think Hydra as well also have sand under the track/supports because of this.

KPJB:

Of course, we still have the remains of a good wave pool and lazy river. Why not rebuild the waterpark on the GL side (again) and close the Sea World Side entirely or make it a campground/resort with water attractions. (I know, we already have a campground)

Better yet... GL need a better stragity in terms of marketing

^ Under the track and supports? Is that why Magnum is so quiet?

So,if it gets moved rather than scrapped then either KD & Carowinds would be the likely two locations....unless they're aiming to spoil KI rotten by giving them yet another coaster.;)

KD could market the ride as a first on the east coast & with HS:XLC going they'll need something with which to maintain their launched coaster record & noise wouldn't be a factor as that area of the park is closer to the highway than anything else.

Launched coaster record? That's even less marketable than the SFMM/CP most coasters record.

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Jason Hammond said:
If they were getting rid of it, I think they would have already said so. They told us X-Flight was beinf relocated and the Monorail was being removed, why would they not tell us about SV. There is no reason to hide it. My hopes are that it is just because of the Parts they were waiting for for the past 6+ months.

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You have some good points. You would think Steel Venom's removal would be mentioned along with X-Flight's departure and it would have been removed from the park's website.

HOWEVER, you still can't ignore the fact that it has been deliberately removed from the 2007 map and was photoshopped out of an image used in the brochure. How do you begin to explain why all of that was done if they weren't planning on taking it out?

Same reason they photoshopped out the old Hurricane Hannah's Waterpark. It was closed/SBNO. Why show it if it can't be ridden. The Path around Raging wolf bobs was closed for a year and was photoshopped out. It was still there and in fact it reopened the next year. Once the reopened it, it was readded to the park map. It's not like these maps are gospel anyway. There are always things wrong with them. The corkscrew layout has been wrong since Cedar Fair took over.
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I think that they should turn GL into Knoebles or Bonafonte Gardens. They are successful because they are different, Knoebles is good because it is like a park from back in the day, they should do something like that. they should even attempt maybe a BG, but i dont know the situation of there scenery.

For the most part I believe Cedar Fair knows what to do and they will do fine.

I can understand the sadness of seeing one and now maybe two coasters go, but good lord...the park still has quite the coaster lineup, including 1 pretty good wooden coaster and 2 others that are either awful or pretty good depending on what year we're talking about.

It just chuckle, we all knew from the beginning the problem was way too many coasters way too fast, I just can't help but be completely unsurprised.

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Jason Hammond said:
It's not like these maps are gospel anyway. There are always things wrong with them. The corkscrew layout has been wrong since Cedar Fair took over.

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Uhhh. There's a difference between an inaccurate drawing of a ride's layout on a map and a ride completely missing from the map altogether.

And when I said Steel Venom was photoshopped out, I didn't mean the park map. It was photoshopped out from a still image (the one with the four teens crossing the pedestrian bridge). Go click on the link again, you obviously missed it.

No...the answer is simple....not turn Geauga into Knoebels or Bonafonte Gardens....turn Geauga lake back into Geauga Lake! And to me, that's exactly what they seem to be doing slowly.

I've been going to Geauga since I was a little kid in the late 70s....it always had it's niche as a great regional park. There was plenty of visitors and also corporate business (company picincs, etc.), something which SF trashed in 1 years time. The place never competed with CP or Kennywood because it didn't need to. I hope that's what the goal is. I will not lament the loss of these coasters at all if we get back a great park in the long run.

*** Edited 1/31/2007 3:19:55 AM UTC by Peabody***

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kRaXLeRidAh said:

Go click on the link again, you obviously missed it.

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Yeah I missed that. That seems a bit extreem. I can't say I ever visualized the park from that direction. Is it possible that SV would be out of frame to the left?

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Jason Hammond said:

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kRaXLeRidAh said:

Go click on the link again, you obviously missed it.

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Yeah I missed that. That seems a bit extreem. I can't say I ever visualized the park from that direction. Is it possible that SV would be out of frame to the left?

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Yeah, it does seem a bit extreme. I looked at that photo again and it is very likely that from the angle it was taken on that bridge, Steel Venom may just have happened to not make the shot.

I'm surprised everybody is complaining so much.

First, although I am no expert, CF seems to be a pretty solid company. They always maintain their share distribution...they organized a massive purchase of the Paramount parks, and as far as their safety record goes they are pretty solid. Although I obviously see CF keeping profit their first priority, I don't buy into this whole 'they removed two coasters it must be becoming a strip mall' thing. They're probably just trying to make it a more viable operation.

Second, if removing a few rides now is better for the good of the whole park in the long run, then what's the problem? There's no doubt that SF really screwed that place up...it definitely grew way too fast for its infrastructure. I remember going the year X-Flight opened...(shudders). I trust that CF is doing what will be best for this park in the long run. As much as we enthusiasts hate to see coasters go, I think we will all be happy when we see GL succeed (here's to hoping that they DO succeed!).

Besides, Steel Venom rattled like none other and X-Flight felt like your face was getting ripped off. Dominator is where it's at (and if Villain would just get rid of those dang Gerstlauer trains...).

Peace!

As long as I still get my GCII next year I don't care. ;)