GL's Steel Venom probably also on it's way out....

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 3:36 PM
^ The Impulse to Dorney thing has been there for a while. I think it makes sense and Id like it (the have no shuttle or launch coasters), but I'm not believing anything yet. Maybe CF will bring in a really good woody like Renegade to this park after all is done along with some flats/family rides. That would be more along the lines of where they want the park and it would bring in guests. IMO, it would be neat to see them get a wooden Flying Turns in place of the coasters they lost. Of course that will NEVER happen, but I think that would be neat traditional ride somewhere else as well.
Tuesday, January 30, 2007 3:41 PM
I hope they don't send it to CP or MA. It should most likely go to Dorney Park they are going to get a new power supply i've heard they also have land so that sounds like a good place for it to go.Or they could just scrap it. *** Edited 1/30/2007 8:42:17 PM UTC by Hoek***
Tuesday, January 30, 2007 3:43 PM
rollergator's avatar Still says on my transport log that SV is heading to Charlotte....of course, that's dated four months ago, so things MAY have changed... LOL!

edit: I do believe that Dorney is more in need, since GAdv has been on the move the last couple years....but I *think* the ROI would be better at Carowinds...

*** Edited 1/30/2007 8:44:45 PM UTC by rollergator***

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 3:50 PM
If GL does get rid of it, they better get some sweet ride. Dorney wont get it they just got Hydra last year, I can see corwinds.

Timbers crew 08

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 3:51 PM

Hoek said:
I hope they don't send it to CP or MA.

Did you forget Cedar Point is already home to the world's biggest Impulse coaster?

Coasterkid200 said:
Dorney wont get it they just got Hydra last year

Hydra opened in 2005. I don't see why it wouldn't go into Dorney Park. The park recently brought in an independant power feed did it not? The same thing Cedar Point did before Wicked Twister's installation.

*** Edited 1/30/2007 8:53:20 PM UTC by kRaXLeRidAh***

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 4:07 PM
Ohh then i can see it going to Dorney, It's not going to MIA because CF wouldnt give them a fun ride, it's not going to CP because of WT, and not VF because of Renegade. So Dorney or Corwinds is my pick.

Timbers crew 08

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 4:15 PM
what are the chances of CF eventually removing all attractions from that section of the park and turning it into a stripmall? Now I haven't been back to the park since I moved to Colorado, but if I remember correctly, the park is right along a fairly busy street. Why keep it as part of the park when they could rent out store fronts and make some (year round) money that way?
Tuesday, January 30, 2007 4:15 PM
Stage 2: Denial. (Of course MiA is getting X-Flight!)

Stage 3: Anger. (MiA won't ever get anything fun.)

Folks, I think we have progress!

*** Edited 1/30/2007 9:16:41 PM UTC by Brian Noble***

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 4:27 PM
RE: removing all rides and turning it into a strip mall...

Not sure if you are being serious or not... but THAT had occured to me when I heard that X-Flight was going. Now with Steel Venom going.... well.

They've got basically a monopoly in Ohio now. GL might take some guests from their two bigger parks... so, instead of competing with themselves, fire up the bulldozers.

RE: MIA getting [insert ride here]

Pretty soon MIA will have to expand onto the nortnern penninsula with all of the relocated rides they are rumored to be getting. *** Edited 1/30/2007 9:28:46 PM UTC by SLFAKE***

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Tuesday, January 30, 2007 4:27 PM
rollergator's avatar Brian, very nicely done... :)

The TIMING couldn't be better....CF has adopted ride rotation, *bargaining* is the obvious (and logical) next step.... ROFL!

*** Edited 1/30/2007 9:28:51 PM UTC by rollergator***

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 4:34 PM
GL is still the only CF park with annual attendance of 1 million or less with both an inverted coaster and a B&M multilooper.

The second smallest in the chain with that coaster lineup draws DOUBLE the numbers of GL.

So now they're down to...what? Only one inverted coaster? Really? Oh BOO hoo.

Stop whining.


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Tuesday, January 30, 2007 4:40 PM
Strip Mall I don't know, but I could see them do a new entrance. That's what they did with Dorney (adding a train, Talon, Wild Mouse, Coasters Drive-In, etc).

And I have to agree with gator... Carowinds seems more in-need of a coaster like this. Dorney would be better off with a new woodie first. *** Edited 1/30/2007 9:42:55 PM UTC by Arson***

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 4:48 PM
kpjb's avatar I have had similar thoughts to what people have mentioned above ever since the old waterpark area was simply abandoned and not even bulldozed.

Notice that everything being removed is from the same side of the park.

Here's my theory:

The long-term plan is to close the old Geauga entrance altogether. Sell off all of the land that is now the parking lots, sell off all the land that is now to the right of the GL entrance.

Parking is now at the old Sea World lots, with the only entrance being back there. All of the rides on the right of the current GL entrance are expendable or easily movable with the notable exception of Dipper. (That's the one that throws the wrench in to the plans.)

I could really see a developer jumping at that property, and CF being easily persuaded to dump it.

The other option is that the park ends at Dipper. The current area of the boomerang, go carts, X-Flight, etc. is still sold off to be developed.

I really see them downsizing the physical size of this park. The infrastructure is way too big for a park of 700K. That's why I think they're dumping rides and not replacing them with anything else. It's because the land underneath them is on borrowed time.

*** Edited 1/30/2007 9:51:44 PM UTC by kpjb***


Tuesday, January 30, 2007 5:23 PM
Wow... I can't believe I missed that when I posted the link in the MIA thread. I even looked at the map to see how they took out X-flight.

Anyway, I think that selling off the land on that road (or building on it themselves) is an interesting plan. Sea World always had the better parking/entrance area. Making that the main entrance would be fine. I don't think they will get rid of all of the old side. They'll keep everything between Dipper and the lake (like the new picnic areas they just built). The current main entrance area will still be there to connect the Villain/Thunderhawk areas with the Dipper/Kidzone and then there will still be the floating bridge to make the park a full circle.

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 5:26 PM
It's funny how they took 2 of the best rides out of that park. They didn't take the bad rides (in my opinion) out like Villian, Thunderhawk, Raging Wolf Bobs, Head Spin (to some), Inverter (Time Warp), and Double Loop (I think it's okay.), but the two best. Why not Dominator next year??

I don't think Cedar Fair knows how to fix it. It's quite easy. The problem is that they would have to spend some money. They obviously don't want to because of Cedar Point so close. Why did they even buy it?

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 5:39 PM
They Bought it to eliminate the competition, meaning that every cent thats made in that market is thiers, so what difference does it make on how large the park is.
Tuesday, January 30, 2007 5:41 PM
Agreed to the comment two above. They have spent little money advertising this park, and then selling off rides. First you have the problem of advertising which in a sense could have hurt attendance, cause it has been said that alot of people still thinks six flags has this park in its control. I did not see one commercial on tv last year for the park, not good advertising.

Second of all what people know of the park, is basically, the old names to rides, and insert the old batman and hmmm superman to alot of people, most recognizable rides in the place to some, i hate to say but those rides had recognition for names. To get rid of steel venom and x-flight i guess does make sense with at least operating costs on steel venoms part, but it was also reconizable. Does anyone have ridership numbers for the coasters like cedar point is able to put out, to see how those stacked against others, as far as the more popular attractions.

This park is going to be the park that pays for itself and some others when they decide to sell land to developers, coming in 2008-2009 the aurora mall complex that they havent built yet and to keep all of us happy they build around and enclose the big dipper inside! *** Edited 1/30/2007 10:41:50 PM UTC by MagnunBarrel***

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Tuesday, January 30, 2007 5:44 PM
beast7369's avatar It is relatively possible that they are going to revamp the entire area and the removals in that area make sense to me. If they remove Steel Venom and Mindbender (the boomerang) or whatever it is called....I think it becomes pretty clear that they are strategically removing the rides in that area to either sell off that land as said or to incorporate something new in that land that might be more of a draw. IF I were Geauga Lake management I would look long and hard at PKI's Nick Universe and put serious thought into putting something like that into my park if indeed I had land available like Geauga Lake will have. Also it would drive attendance back up with more families coming in. Also it will be different than what Cedar Point is offering now. Just some random thoughts.
Tuesday, January 30, 2007 5:54 PM
Jason Hammond's avatar If they were getting rid of it, I think they would have already said so. They told us X-Flight was beinf relocated and the Monorail was being removed, why would they not tell us about SV. There is no reason to hide it. My hopes are that it is just because of the Parts they were waiting for for the past 6+ months. I also have hopes that the entire front of the park gets re designed. I have never been a big fan of the layout of the park. Perhaps it's SBNO this year or even taken down this year, to be relocated to a different part of the park in 2008.

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Tuesday, January 30, 2007 6:03 PM
Well I live near Carowinds so all I have to say is DIBS ON DOMINATOR, although with a new paint job Steel Venom could be White Lightnin' 2 "Lightnin' does strike the same place twice"

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