Did you get e-mail from ThrillNetwork?
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Am I really that shy?
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Shaun Rajewski
CoasterLine
http://www.coasterline.com
CoastaPlaya said:
Say, have you ever seen this TV ad for Nestle Crunch.....
It was actually for Snickers cruncher. Don't you pay explicit attention to details from messages of products that are brainwashing you to be a consumer whore?
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Be polite and ignore the idiots. - rollergator
"It's not a Toomer" - Arnold Schwartzenkoph
"Those who know don't talk and those who talk don't know." -Jeff
*** This post was edited by ApolloAndy 7/3/2003 7:53:33 PM ***
Firstly, according to Jeff Whatever’s post, Alexa demonstrates that coaster buzz gets more traffic than thrill network. Honestly I believe Alexa is a very poor way to judge traffic to a particular site and there are many things that can cause the information to be wrong on Alexa, I won't get into details, but do a few search on the net about stats and alexa and you will quickly learn more about it..
Another thing, talk about advertising (I don’t use popup killers)! On CoasterBuzz I get a popup almost on every page I go to and when I leave CoasterBuzz I always end up with like 10-15 browsers. When I visit Thrillnetwork, I can’t even find a single ad on their main page, and I rarely get a popup, this to me shows who is trying to make money and who isn’t. But there is nothing wrong with trying to make money, and I do know popups pay a lot more than other ads.
And finally, there seems to be a few discrepancies on the posts I have been reading in this thread. I could not find any evidence of Thrillnetwork or “Alex Whateverman” admitting to any “Email harvesting”. It seems like somebody says one thing in this thread and it becomes something that’s written in stone and true regardless of the source, or if it’s made up. I honestly do believe some email addresses were gathered into their list in error. I could see this mistake being made very easily, for instance - what if they used a program like Jeff mentioned to harvest email addresses from their own site, what if this program was configured incorrectly and followed a link to where coasterbuzz addresses were located without knowledge, I could definitely see this being a mistake.
If you got an email and do not want a coaster news letter from Thrill Network, unsubscribe through the means they give and lets see if you get another one.
But if you don’t unsubscribe I’d expect that they will send you another next time they publish a new news letter.
I really doubt they will sell their own subscriber base or email newsletter list to any 3rd party, just from what I’ve seen on the site from the past few years. It seems like people here dis thrillnetwork, but I rarely if ever, saw a dis to coasterbuzz from them.
Coasterbuzz/Jeff should be more responsible with subscriber information, and I put blame on CoasterBuzz. Publishing their subscriber’s private email addresses on a public web site that anyone can view is a big no no. If you visit most major web sites that have a decent forum, or community (ebay, etc) you will quickly learn that they keep their subscriber’s emails very private and do not publish them on their web sites. If you are going to publish a subscriber’s email address on your web site you should make it very clear when they sign up that their email address will be available for everyone to see on a public web site, and to provide clear instructions on how to hide or remove your email address. This site needs to protect their subscriber’s privacy and stop publishing their email addresses on the web.
Regardless, I must say I love both sites, CoasterBuzz and ThrillNetwork, both are a great places to visit when I am not riding Coasters. This thread is way out of hand.. :-)
Just my two cents..
Dr Coaster / Carl
*** This post was edited by drcoaster 7/3/2003 9:21:40 PM ***
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Six Flags Worlds of Adventure Online
"We find that people don't pay any attention to what's underneath the ride."--SFMM Rep discussing Scream! as quoted in AT
Check your e-mail. You can read the e-mail Westerman sent me admiting to harvesting e-mail.
And you can take responsibility yourself. Don't tell me what to do with subscriber e-mail. There is, and always was a mechanism to hide your information. You figured it out, didn't you? The rest of us, by choice, prefer to keep it public so we can communicate one on one with people.
You're living in some kind of weird dream world if you think that it's possible to accidentally harvest hundred of thousands of e-mail messages then send mail to them all. How naive is that?
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Jeff - Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com - Sillynonsense.com
DELETED! What time does the water show start?
drcoaster said:When I visit Thrillnetwork, I can’t even find a single ad on their main page, and I rarely get a popup, this to me shows who is trying to make money and who isn’t.
When I was visiting ThrillNetwork yesterday, I was prompted to install Gator. I doubt it was intentional, but I'll take a 100 popups versus being prompted to install spyware.
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Walt Schmidt - Virtual Midway
"Are you the creator of Hi and Lois because you are making me laugh." - Comic Book Guy
*** This post was edited by Gemini 7/3/2003 10:01:55 PM ***
Users can still communicate if you hide their email address via private messages, and a email redirect ... almost every site does this except for yours... I hid my email address because I read information on that thread on how to do it.
An email direct is an easy solution just create a form to send a particular user email... which will than be emailed to them and the email address is still kept private and communication is wide open.
Seems like you are placing the responsibility on your users and not on the way your system is ran... But it’s alright.. and who cares.. :-) I don't.. This is the message you forwarded to my email with his "apology of harvesting"..
Email below:
An apology to Roller Coaster enthusiasts.
With the most recent ThrillNetwork Newsletter we made a mistake when sending
out the email. We sent the newsletter to an old ThrillNetwork list and not
our standard list. This list was one that was compiled from all the major
coaster sites and Rollercoaster.com when this site was still affiliated with
ThrillRide (now Rideworld). We used this list when we launched the old
site. With this recent mailing we got a few complaints, which raised a flag
because our primary list is directly imported from the message board
signups.
We apologize if you received an email in error and remind you that we do
adhere to strict standards regarding sending out unsolicited email. If you
did receive an email and want to be removed from the list follow this link.
http://www.thrillnetwork.com/index.php?page=newsletter
Please keep in mind: as a condition of our Terms of Service and by signing
up for any of the interactive features on ThrillNetwork you agreed to
receive email news letters and periodic emails regarding changes and
enhancements to ThrillNetwork.com.
Again, we are very sorry for this slip up. We've deleted the egregious list
and re-imported the current message board users and our list is now
up-to-date.
Sincerely,
Alex Westerman
Publisher
917-xxx-xxxx
ThrillNetwork.com
--- End of email you sent me..that he sent you.. :-)
- Dr Coaster .. Carl
*** This post was edited by drcoaster 7/3/2003 10:17:43 PM ***
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Just because I have a short attention span doesn't mean I
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"We find that people don't pay any attention to what's underneath the ride."--SFMM Rep discussing Scream! as quoted in AT
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Cuz everybody wishes they could do it themselves.
And, out in good 'ole Duluth, Minnesota, someone did just that ;) http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Midwest/07/02/offbeat.telemarket.tale.ap/index.html
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Starcoasters.com | ThrillSpot
Howard Dean for President!
"You don't have an 'account' as such so there's nothing that needs to be done. Please feel free to dop by, though, if you ever get the chance to see what we're all up to.
Take care,
Steve"
Or at least that was stated on their forums.
Edit: added quotation marks
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*** This post was edited by Evil Zucchini 7/3/2003 11:14:18 PM ***
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Ryan
Just letting you know that I did NOT get an email from ThrillNetwork.
I chose not to have any of my information displayed - so could that have made a difference? I chose not to display my email, so people couldn't use my email address (any displayed information could be used to sign you up to sites that you really don't want to be a part of).
Also, I'm not quite sure when I signed up - so maybe they "harvested" the email address before that date.
One other thought - I didn't sign up to, or ever sent anything to Rideworld, Thrillride, or rollercoaster.com, etc. I only signed up here and URC. Did they actually tell you they Harvested this site? Couldn't those other sites (ThrillRide) have "sold/gave" their email list to TN or could TN just look at published info and write it down?
I'm just feeling left out - No I didn't get an email - I guess I'm not important enough in the coaster world to even care that I'm here (sniff, sniff) lol.
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Let the good times roll - Zingo
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Don't ever underestimate the psycho factor in my head
drcoaster, thank you for coming to the party late and re-posting what I already posted. You can save your "interpretation." Tell me, how do you interpret, "This list was one that was compiled from all the major
coaster sites?"
If it smells like crap, looks like crap, it's crap.
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Crapfully Yours, Jeff - Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com - Sillynonsense.com
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"This list was one that was compiled from all the major
coaster sites and Rollercoaster.com when this site was still affiliated with ThrillRide (now Rideworld)."
I believe rollercoaster.com, thrillride, and some other domains/sites were at some point affiliated if not operated by thrillnetwork, he is calling these sites "major coaster sites" ..
But you can read it how ever you desire... and so can I.
*** This post was edited by drcoaster 7/3/2003 11:46:41 PM ***
Closed topic.
