Did you get e-mail from ThrillNetwork?

Turning 30 yesterday, I'm pleased to announce that dick and fart jokes are still funny. Thank God for that.

Yeah, the core question we all have is still, "What were you thinking about harvesting e-mail addresses?"

There is no good answer, we'll never hear one. Not doing it for the money (whatever that means) certainly isn't an excuse.

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Jeff - Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com - Sillynonsense.com
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I received it as well; never visited the site before. Using the forgot password option produces an email not found error.

The Michigan bill that Jeff mentioned is not quite yet in place, but is described here for your education:

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Violations of the Michigan bill, should it become law, would face misdemeanor charges, along with prison terms as long as one year and fines of up to $10,000. Those penalties could be imposed on the spammer on a per-message basis. In a civil case, plaintiffs could recover actual damages. Alternately, they could sue for the lesser of $500 per spam message or $250,000 for each day the spam is received. Recipients and e-mail service providers would also be allowed to recover costs and attorneys' fees.

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Note that I am not threatening ThrillNetwork with any legal action; however, they do need to be more careful, or someone could potentially charge them if they continue these practices after the bill is passed.
*** This post was edited by Strijder 7/3/2003 9:46:31 AM ***

It would appear the Theory of Nobody is still alive and well--and applies to 'Nobody' web sites too, eh?

Lemme blow the dust off my time-proven theorem and apply it to our particular sad bunch.

Sometimes there are nobody (web sites) who desperately wish to be somebody(web sites). In their pitiful wish to be a somebody (web site) they turn to (spammination), but the only validation they actually find is that they truly are a nobody(web site)--and the same boring feckless nobody (web site) they are in the real world.

Confronted once again with the fact that they're nobody, their next pathetic effort is to lash out at the somebodies around them. Perhaps by cutting the somebodies to size, they imagine they will cease to be a nobody(web site) . Bad move. The somebodies will only poke more fun at them and the nobodies who know better will leave them to their sad fate, too.

It applied when I coined it and it applies today.

Study well. Class will be back in session soon...

-CO

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The CPlaya 100--6 days, 9 parks, 47 coasters, 2037 miles and a winner.....LoCoSuMo.

Like everyone else, the receiving of the mail didn't bother me (I actually read it, and even looked at the site). What really bothers me is that they have my WORK email, which I've NEVER used for ANY clubs, including this one.

The only time I've used the work email was to contact Jeff directly to ask questions about Coaster Buzz Con, or a few questionable threads. This makes me wonder if they somehow harvested his "sent" mail addresses, since my work address is not in the database (but he did reply to my messages).

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Goccvp1

Ok! I have read enought! Jeff if you are so great then you think you are you would tell your members the thruth and stop stealing news from the other news sites! Now back to the thruth. Jeff you know as well as anyone that those ratings you are talking about so much is a bunch of cr*p. The Alexa ratins is based on three months of aggregated historical traffic data from millions of Alexa Toolbar users and is a combined measure of page views and users. You read that Jeff, users that have the Alexa toolbar! Thats not every user on the internet!Sorry if I made you feel stupid but I had to say something. THOSE RATINGS MEAN NOTHING! You may delete this post because you hate when people prove you wrong, but please but and anwser this!

Heres a link to prove my story, when will everyone wake up and see that Jeff lies to his members to look good! CoasterBuzz doesnt get that many hits! Wake Up people!

http://pages.alexa.com/prod_serv/traffic_learn_more.html#traffic_rank

So why do fewer and fewer people with Alexa toolbars bother with Da Swill? Explain.

Another gem from Alexa for those without ADHD who read stuff. This is at the bottom of the page...

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Generally, Traffic Rankings of 100,000+ should be regarded as not reliable because the amount of data we receive is not statistically significant. Conversely, the more traffic a site receives (the closer it gets to the number 1 position), the more reliable its Traffic Ranking becomes.

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In other words, it's fairly safe to say that CBuzz is more popular than all the fart sites on theWeb, but SwillNetwork may be even less significant than Alexa says.

Next!

-CO

*** This post was edited by CoastaPlaya 7/3/2003 11:27:51 AM ***

Yeah, you made feel stupid and you made me cry.

How exactly do I steal news? In fact, have you looked lately to see that (gasp!) most of the news is contributed by our members? Are they all thieves too? Does this have anything to do with e-mail harvesting spammers?

Still waiting to hear from somebody from SwillNetwork to tell us how they justify harvesting e-mail addresses...

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Jeff - Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com - Sillynonsense.com
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Well Jeff do you have a point with the e-mail harvesting. Thats not right. I just to make things clear with alexa.

Since continually asking questions about TN on this site is not getting any answers, perhaps members who have ties to both sites can create a thread there asking why the emails were harvested in the first place. Although it may seem like fun to rip up on other people (which it can be), in cases like this, the best way to get an honest answer is to not scream and yell, even if you want to. A well-worded post is more likely to get a response than one that does nothing but rips on a person or group. Yes, I have laughed at such comments in the past, but if there is something extremely important that you want an answer for, usually the only way to get it is to be kind.

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Don't ever underestimate the psycho factor in my head

Everybody could always try that forgiveness thing that Jesus was so high on.

It's a blatent rip-off from That 70's Show, but it really applies here.

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You read that Jeff, users that have the Alexa toolbar! Thats not every user on the internet!Sorry if I made you feel stupid but I had to say something. THOSE RATINGS MEAN NOTHING!

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Just like TV's Neilsen ratings are based on just the people who are chosen to participate. It's a very small percentage of the people watching TV - yet billions of dollars change hands because of what those few people watch.

This is kind of how "real life" works. Perhaps you'd like to join us here.

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www.coasterimage.com
Dorney Park Visits in 2003: 11

Ahhhh hahahahahahahaha!!! We've gone from Rodney King's "Can't we all get along?" to "STOP THE HATE!" in all caps to references to Jesus. Man, I'm having a great day.

One small problem with the Jesus thing tho--I do believe he required repentance of your sins first, no? Which meant more than saying, "My bad--hey shut up talkin' bout me." It meant stopping all the evil you were up to first. Do we hear any Most High Exalted muckamuck from that little place over there doing that? Not really.

So in the meantime....

-CO

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The CPlaya 100--6 days, 9 parks, 47 coasters, 2037 miles and a winner.....LoCoSuMo.

Tis my brother who posts on TN and he found something after reading over my shoulder...LoCOsuMo...or as you go here CoastaPlaya. Why do you post here then post on the site you bash as if nothing is wrong? I could swear your allegiance is to this site, it is painfully obvious.

I got more spam today. More from the Mortgage guy and I too RENT. How the hell am I supposed to Mortgage something when renting? Answer me that.
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I am not who you think I am.

Yes, I believe repentance is also required, but here is another thing most people don't know about Jesus, he didn't condone people's bad actions, and he got quite flustered a couple of times in the temple overturning tables and what not because people were being dishonest. Heck, he even threw them out. So before you go all Christian on here, go read the bible first, and realize that there is a time and place for things(hey that's a scripture in the bible!), and that when people do bad things, they have to pay for their sins, repent, and then be forgiven. I've heard no such repentance from SwillNetwork(hope ya don't mind Me using it, Playa)...

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President, C.R.A.P. (Coaster Rescurers And Preservationists).

Chernabog said:
I mean, hey, didn't he just say that he drives a camry? There's no bling-bling there, folks. ;)

hey! you can do alot to improve the look / performance of a camry.
http://home.nycap.rr.com/greese1/IMG_0782.jpg
:)

anyways, back to the topic. i just checked my hotmail account and somehow that recieved the email to. thats usually the account that i use when i register for sites (not this one) but now im wondering what other sites they may have gotten it from.

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John
Albany Entertainment
http://albany.n3.net
*** This post was edited by CalvinJ23 7/3/2003 12:25:20 PM ***

I actually had never received any spam at that address until the TN newsletter came in. Now.

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Am I really that shy?

Wow. All the instant theologians really need to give it a rest. Jesus asks for repentance, but whether or not He forgives you without repentance is a question as old as Christianity.

What's going on here is a mere mortal who has been wronged by another mere mortal. It's not hard to figure out that we're supposed to turn the other cheek (Which is a heck of a lot less fun than just making funnies). "Let He who is without sin, throw the first stone", "Love your enemies", "Do not judge, or you too will be judged" and on and on and on...

Jesus gets to overturn tables, you don't.
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Be polite and ignore the idiots. - rollergator
"It's not a Toomer" - Arnold Schwartzenkoph
"Those who know don't talk and those who talk don't know." -Jeff

"It's not hard to figure out that we're supposed to turn the other cheek..."

I tried that once...

mOOSH

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A random Mooshter's Dawntionary listing: Pokemon [n.] A Jamaican proctologist.

Apollo, I wasn't trying to be theologian and all, my point was, don't bring Christianity or any other religion up when you use it wrong. We're not Jesus, we're not perfect, and we're not as forgiving. Drewbie really shouldn't have brought that up in the first place. I wasn't preaching or being holier that thou, but don't go all Jesus when you don't look at all the facts and give an educated statement, that was my point. It has nothing to do with judging, love for enemies, or casting stones. And that right there, casting the first stone, heck, i'll be the first to admit my shortcomings and apologise(sp?) if you've been offended, and I've wronged you, but You don't see anybody from ThrillNetwork admitting anything? An empty appology without admitting they were wrong(wrong in harvesting the emails, not "mistakenly" sending out spam) is of as much value as smacking me in the face, appologizing for it, and then doing it again, appologizing, etc.

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President, C.R.A.P. (Coaster Rescurers And Preservationists).

I know this has been said many times, but not everyone is hearing it.

We can accept that they made a mistake in sending out that spam email, if in fact Alex Westerman was being truthful.

We cannot accept the fact that he or his colleagues harvest our email from this site and possibly other coaster-related sites. That is totally unacceptable to their ISP's and unnacceptable to any CoasterBuzz member who trusted their email address to Jeff.

Furthermore, now that Thrillnetwork has a list of coaster enthusiasts' email addresses, he can sell it to high-volume spam mongers and potentially make a little money. Should he be allowed to make money on us? On information he shoudln't even have? Of course not! This is what we're mad about, and no matter how many times the Thrillnetwork apologists claim that it was an innocent mistake, we all know that the harvesting of emails was deliberate and intentional and we reserve the right to not be happy about it.

-Seth