Clementon Park's new owners hope to improve experience

Posted Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:08 PM | Contributed by Jeff

Park General Manager and Vice President David Dorman said, since being acquired by Adrenaline Family Entertainment in 2007, Clementon Park and Splash World has had a commitment to improve the overall park experience, park cleanliness and hospitality of each park employee.

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Thursday, May 19, 2011 6:19 PM
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But the difference in what you posted and what is going on here is that most of what has been said in a counter argument to you has been facts and examples that you won't accept, then you staet your opinion is the only right one. You're arguing that there can be no hotel built for reasons that are soely your opinion.

You refuse to accept facts that the park themselves have stated and make ridiculous cow ter arguments when in reality none of us know if there are offers on the table for a hotel to be built although according to the park it is an option they're considering. That it hasn't happened yet is not a valid argument. That there isn't anything (according to you) else there to support a hotel is a flaw in your logic. And when people who actually have experience in what they're talking about or people that relate facts stated by the park itself say something your arguement is that if the park could support it it'd be there. That isn't a sound argument as to WHY they'll never build one there.

If you were to present a logical, coherent argument as to why thy likely wouldn't build one...in you opinion I'd at least respect that as opinion. Instead you argue actual facts with baseless opinions.


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Thursday, May 19, 2011 6:24 PM
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Dude! GADv is 12 miles from the same busy road that Kings Dominion is on! That's like 15 minutes! It only needs to pull in as many people as KD does that want to spend the nite! A park that does more visitors annually and is CLOSER to a huge destination shouldn't have any problems filling rooms.


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Thursday, May 19, 2011 7:15 PM
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Did anyone else find the news article about Clementon Park to be kind of boring? The new slide in the photo in the story looks short too. Anyone else?

(lol)


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Thursday, May 19, 2011 8:11 PM

Tekwardo said:
Kings Dominion is in Doswell VA. Nothing else really close. And Richmond is hardly a destination. Oh and there is a hotel there at the Park's entrance. I guess peoe stay there to look at the gas station across the street.


Actually Doswell is pretty close to Fredericksburg and that city is trying to be a destination in its own right in recent years with their Central Park Shopping District, historical sites and being close to another shopping area..Potomac Mills not too mention Fredericksburg is part of the Washington DC metro area with trains available between the two.

You are right about Richmond not being a destination and Kings Dominion may agree with you too. Even though Kings Dominion falls within the Richmond TV market..dont the hotels in that region per-request by Kings Dominion offer Washington DC TV instead? Over the air one can get both Richmond and DC TV so I guess it could be possible to go with DC..

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Thursday, May 19, 2011 8:19 PM
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You're actually making my point for me. :-)

If KD is close enough to other stuff and can support a hotel, sury a park close to one of the most popular tourist destinations could support a hotel as well.


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Thursday, May 19, 2011 10:30 PM

Tekwardo said:
But the difference in what you posted and what is going on here is that most of what has been said in a counter argument to you has been facts

Really? Which facts would those be? Because right now the only thing that is a matter of fact, is that 6 Flags has been studying the feasiblity of a hotel since 1996, under that plan they were going to build 200 million worth of other stuff to do to make it a year round destination.

The only other fact we have is that GA is now looking to partner up with someone, and thus far noone has taken them up on it.

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And when people who actually have experience in what they're talking about

LOL, the guy that works the popcorn stand and the guy that greases the coaster track

If you were to present a logical, coherent argument as to why thy likely wouldn't build one...in you opinion I'd at least respect that as opinion.

I did, the short answer is, because it wont make money.

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Thursday, May 19, 2011 10:51 PM
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billb7581 said:
Really? Which facts would those be?

The fact that a completely new corporate governance team is looking a lodging and yet you keep saying it won't make money. The fact is, they disagree and they have the facts to prove as such. All you have is an ever changing argument that it'll never happen because it hasn't happened, etc.

Because right now the only thing that is a matter of fact, is that 6 Flags has been studying the feasiblity of a hotel since 1996, under that plan they were going to build 200 million worth of other stuff to do to make it a year round destination.

Sigh. You keep bringing up something that a team of people who haven even worked for the company for half a decade did. The new peeps don't seem to think that the rest is necessary. Which is why they're currently looking a lodging options including partnering with a chain or doing it themselves with an RV park and cabins. Another thing he park president factually confirmed although you continue to dispute.

The only other fact we have is that GA is now looking to partner up with someone, and thus far noone has taken them up on it.

Please show where they e confirmed that they're not working with a chain rigt now, I missed that press release. And you again look over the fact that he park president said they're Persuing lodging of some form, which you continue to state won't make money and/or isn't needed. Even though the park is currently actually looking into adding lodging in some form.

LOL, the guy that works the popcorn stand and the guy that greases the coaster track

Actually I was referring to the park president who this year stated that they're lookin at options. And not your out of date, 3 regimes ago options real options now.

Also Gonch's wife works in the hotel industry as a manager of several years. I'm sure she knows more about whether a hotel could work (which is the argument we're having but apparently not the one you're having) than you, a machinist, or me, a civil servant.

I did, the short answer is, because it wont make money.

You've yet to prove that that is anything other than your opinion. You don't have any facts to back that up. The lack of physical existence or knowledge about something is neither fact on your part nor proof that we are wrong in saying that the hotel could make money. Apparently the park president and Six Flags feels there is an opportunity to make money or they wouldn't still be looking at lodging options.

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Thursday, May 19, 2011 11:00 PM
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To everyone who has been here for a while, I'm really sorry if I was anything like this during our Flashpass arguments. :)

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Thursday, May 19, 2011 11:46 PM
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Tekwardo said:
Also Gonch's wife works in the hotel industry as a manager of several years. I'm sure she knows more about whether a hotel could work (which is the argument we're having but apparently not the one you're having) than you, a machinist, or me, a civil servant.

I'll be the first to claim my many, many years of indirect experience translates to some hotel know-how.

However, I'm not going to claim I have an special experience in the field of business feasibility study.

So, I'd just like to take the hotel thing off the table for this game. :)


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Friday, May 20, 2011 12:47 AM
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Very nice, Travis. That got an LOL from me.


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Friday, May 20, 2011 2:30 AM
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billb7581 said:
I kinda meant Sandusky. Thats a beach area, no?

No. The only significant beach is at Cedar Point, and I think at East Harbor State Park.


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Friday, May 20, 2011 10:13 AM

1. Campgrounds are treated differently with respect to property taxes in NJ since they preserve open space.

2. Show me the e press release where they have a taker for this parnership.

3. I have one very damning fact. The hotel still doesnt exist.

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Friday, May 20, 2011 12:29 PM
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The hotel still doesn't exist because the chain has changed management several times over the years. Also, we are (supposedly) bouncing back from a recession. There is also a lot of red tape that building a new business requires. (just look at the supposed new park being build in WV.) Plus, the park has announced that they are interested in building a hotel.

And around and around we go...where we stop, nobody knows...


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Friday, May 20, 2011 1:15 PM
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If the forums could support an end to this nonsense, it would have already happened by now.


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Friday, May 20, 2011 1:43 PM
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If you would have posted that in the form of a haiku, Andy, you would have been king of the internets! :)


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Friday, May 20, 2011 2:07 PM
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If my brain could have
supported that in haiku,
I would have done so.


Hobbes: "What's the point of attaching a number to everything you do?"
Calvin: "If your numbers go up, it means you're having more fun."

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Friday, May 20, 2011 2:13 PM
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Nicely done!


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Friday, May 20, 2011 2:35 PM
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senseless circular logic

makes discussion fun

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Friday, May 20, 2011 4:19 PM

Hotel, or the egg...
Which came first? Nobody knows,
Except for billb...


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Friday, May 20, 2011 5:00 PM
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Clementon Park was
the original topic
but Bill hates hotels


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