Cedar Point '07 Project

If the Screamscape info is verified, then I'm quite upset about the past-vertical drop. Such a stupid idea, especially with OTSR's.

Yes, but remember that at one point Screamscape claimed that this project was dueling 500 foot flyers. :)

It could be a 'steroid' version of this coaster...

http://www.dollywood.com/mmine/defaultb.htm

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Olsor said:
[crickets chirping]

Complaints about not having 15 inversions or breaking speed/length/height records in 5... 4... 3... 2...

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Dude, that's a riot..... Maybe you should host next year's Emmy's....

I think it sounds cool. I wasn't expecting 500 feet or 15 inversions - who says it has to be a record breaker? But I think OTSR's are a significant drawback - why can't we just get beyond those?

I also agree with what was said above; you can't be sure of anything until the fat lady (or fat park) sings.

Edit: I was just looking through the Screamscape "About Us" section - Read through this and see if you don't start chuckling to yourself.... *** Edited 9/1/2006 5:20:44 PM UTC by ophthodoc***

The coaster snobs are back in force...Screamscape never said 500 foot flyers, nice try though.

Mike E - I was thinking the same thing a few days ago. But so far everyone says it is an Intamin. Looks like an Intamin to me but who knows....Stengel designs for both companies anyway so the products could look similar.

People - Its INTAMIN for crying out loud. Please stop making it something that it's not.

Screamscape, I saw it, i'm a little dissapointed, becasue if that is true, then i'd rather find out from cedar point seeing as I wanted to try to figure it out by the pictures. If it's only part true, then sweet more of a mystery. But If that's Cedar Point's plan to thrill us witha past vertical angle then i'm a bit dissapointed. What difference is 5 degrees from vertical, if it were 110 degrees that'll be a different story. But I hope there's more to this ride.

I'm definately visiting dollywood next year, it looks interesting.

So maybe if this is true, the record breaker part is the largest angle of descent, at 95.

oh well, it was fun.

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BANDandDCI said:
What difference is 5 degrees from vertical

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Because not only is there already negative forces from the radius of the top of the drop, but now you have added forces because of gravity. I can't imagine it's going to be pleasant.

I think it's the most interesting ride they've put in since Raptor, but that's just me.

Its hard to tell from this picture, but it does not look like enough clearance for the coaster train to pass.

http://pointbuzz.com/gallery.aspx?i=5508

I don't think there will be that much of a force unless it is a short bend towards 95 degrees, whip sort of.

Thinking about it, didn't we see somewhere a picture of a projected vertical drop for this coaster?

It's just the angle the picture was taken at, there's a bit of clearace, both tracks are bank, and and probably be connected.

*** Edited 9/1/2006 6:39:42 PM UTC by BANDandDCI***

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SFoGswim said:
If the Screamscape info is verified, then I'm quite upset about the past-vertical drop. Such a stupid idea, especially with OTSR's.

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who said there were going to be OTSR's? I can't wait to see what the train is going to look like

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+Danny said:
I think it's the most interesting ride they've put in since Raptor, but that's just me.

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I agree completely. This does look awesome.

It's about time Cedar Point put in just an all out GOOD ride, not just some gimmick (i.e. Dragster). And for those who believe what was posted on screamscape is a bunch of BS, you're going to be greatly disappointed September 7th. *** Edited 9/1/2006 7:06:08 PM UTC by whoeverknew***

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KAPrep9008 said:
who said there were going to be OTSR's? I can't wait to see what the train is going to look like

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For any ride that has a beyond vertical drop, it is highly irresponsible by the park not fit OSTRs on the ride. With all the issues Intamin has been having with their pneumatic T-bar restraint system, it's a no brainer to put OSTRs... and last time I checked, there are already two inversion erected.

Well, IF... IF the Screamscape "rumor" were untrue & the photo was just some kinda mock-up... then the person who went through the trouble of making that sure went through a LOT of thought & effort to create it based on the current layout, since that photo looks very well done & not just some MS-Paint amature image.

Yea, it's not too tall... it doesn't have the 10+ inversions, but from the looks of it, it looks to be quite fun, especially how the areas are "themed" where the coaster is making all of those tight turns. It would explain why it makes those S-turns near the train-tracks.

I'm glad someone shed some light, even if some whine that it spoils the surprise... I've been dying to know... once the official announcement is made, THEN we'll be given possibly Kieth McVeen's [Badnitrus] recreation of the coaster's concept with a POV & other views up close, as well as the cost, & if there's anything else to expect.

Another themed coaster from Cedar Point... amazing how they never had one prior to Dragster.

Whoa, I didn't see that screamscape posted concept art. Looks better than anything I could have imagined by piecing the info together.

I agree with gomez, that really does look like Keith's work. I'm sure someone at CP is gonna be getting a major spanking soon from corporate for snapping that pic.

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DawgByte II said:

Another themed coaster from Cedar Point... amazing how they never had one prior to Dragster.

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I'd say Disaster Transport is somewhat themed. You can even get technical and say so is the Cedar Creek Mine Ride with the station and all, but not heavily themed.

That concept art looks too good to be fake. If this is indeed what we are seeing, I'm excited for it.

As for the trains speculated to be 3 cars long and hold 12 riders, it makes a lot of sense considering the shape of that bunny hop before the two corkscrews. Could you imagine a 7 car train flying over that? The difference in forces would be nuts!

~Rob Willi