Cedar Point '07 Project

A friend of mine broke a rib on Mean Streak on an employee ride night...for what it is worth.

^ Of course. My uncle is just as a fanactic as I am, he's like 52. He has heart troubles, and he says he'd rather die on a roller coaster than naturally. I find that interesting, because I'd rather die on a coaster than naturally as well. But Mean Streak on a dry day, is the roughest ride at the park, and I couldn't see someone, with a weak back, or aches and pains, riding that coaster, when I, myself, try to absorb the impact of the bumps by lifting up going down a hill. But the back of the train does that to you. And I love the roughness of it. That's why I wanted to ride SOB with the bump in it. Get that first hand experience. I don't know, but I'm stil thinking of heading out to PKI this weekend, haven't really made up my mind or not. I might just go back to CP. *** Edited 8/30/2006 1:32:35 PM UTC by BANDandDCI***

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Mamoosh said:
Coasterphan - Using proper spelling and grammar is part of the Terms of Service set up by Jeff Putz, the webmaster, that EVERYONE must agree to before getting a username:

1. Spelling & Grammar usage:
There's a difference between a typo (which we all make) and chat shorthand ("r ne of u lamerz?") People like to read real, spelled out words, with capitalization and punctuation. You don't have to add pointless emphasis!!!!!!!???????!!!!!!!!!!!! THERE IS NO NEED TO SHOUT, we can hear you just fine. Please utilize your shift and caps lock key properly. Respect for the English language is important, and that means chat shorthand is not welcome.

This is a site about coasters. It is also a community of people and in any community there are standards by which all must adhere to.

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Exactly! Every time I see someone post rule #1, I read it, to understand it even more. The point of rule #1 is so posters do not use shorthand on this forum.

Yes, that is the point, because it is mentioned twice in that one rule alone.

Now, going back to BANDandDCI's 1st post that was criticized, I saw no internet shorthand being used. Except for one or two misspelled words, I completely understood his post. Yet, that didn't stop the nitpicking though.

BTW, interesting looking coaster.

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DawgByte II said:
In theory, you COULD just ignore the posts that make no sense, then the bad grammar & such would just... go away. Otherwise, more time spent on correcting others English 101..

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Amen to that brother. :)

-Tambo

BandandDCI, I completely agree with you and your father. I would rather die on a roller coaster as well. At least I know I would go out smiling. :)

Back on topic, with the latest photos I have seen on Pointbuzz, Project 2007 is, to me, getting more confusing by the day. I guess we'll all know in a matter of days. I, for one, cannot wait for this announcement. What really intrigues me is that I thought I had read that this was something kinda new for Intamin and so far, nothing looks out of the ordinary. Maybe it's some new kind of train? *** Edited 8/30/2006 2:44:11 PM UTC by Coasterbuzzer***

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A slow LIM System, while intriguing, is not possible.

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I don't believe this is true. The maximum applicable force is determined by physical design, but one can always operate it at lower forces by "stuttering" the motor. If you've ever seen an impulse park itself, you'll see this in action. V2.5 at SFMW is particularly noticeable when it parks; you can practically hear the thing vibrate on/off.

To CB- But what kind of train do you have in mind. I'm in college studying to enter the field in a couple years as a designer, so ideas are flying through my head, but I don't see much, that's possible for this train, because of that 50 feet. That's the key to this entire section, we all know it. I'm finally listening to the Coasterbuzz podcast, from monday, and paused it. But it drew attention to the signs, and the fence. If this ride has something to do with the sayings, then I don't know what to expect from the trains. Right now, it's looking like it may be another stormrunner, but i'm not entirely sure now. I'm looking at my pictures, comparing them to the ones on Point buzz, trying to map out the track by looking at teh footers, but It's just not lining up. All of a sudden the footers stop, and another idea from another part of the ride, takes over that area. I'm specifically looking at the end of that 50 foot section, and trying to match that up. But if you match it up with the raised turn, then the coaster is complete, and we got random footers all over the place. Ahh, i'm determined to figure this out before THE DAY.

I meant that because of Intamin's track record... the obese (and especially... morbidly obese) just shouldn't bother with this coaster because I'm betting that it will not be able to accomidate them (I'm being as P.C. as possible here, people).

Even though Americans are getting fatter, their latest Intamin hasn't stopped them from making "big boy" seats, and I really doubt this one is going to break the mold. "Maverick" will have a train similar to Millennium Force with the exception of a little theming & the shoulder restraints.

BANDandDCI, I don't really have any ideas of a new train from Intamin. I just think there's going to be some good surprises when the announcement comes. I really don't think it will be the wingwalker idea, but something we may not have seen yet, at least from Intamin.

But it's not the seats that are small, it's the stupid seatbelts. But someone said, I think here, or maybe i'm listening to it, but hopefully, i'm crossing fingers, that this is a looping, non-sholder restraint coaster. But looking at the inversions, that's not very likely.

But compiling all the ideas that we have seen, we're left with the record breaking ideas, the cable lift, the LIM lift, LIM Launch, 2 part coaster, different wheels?, and I think I'm missing a few.

Maybe it's not an Intamin at all! Now don't fry me to a crisp on this. Just trying to stimulate 'interesting' conversation. Maybe it's one of these:

http://www.screamscape.com/html/euro-fighter_320_0.htm

Track and supports look similar with a vertical lift. And its supposedly LIM-launched/lifted. Just for conversation since we've got another week to beat each other up about what the ride is.

Charcoal: Check. Lighter Fluid: Check. Lighter: Check. Big Honkin' Frying Pan: Check.

OK, Mike, hop in!! One crispy order of Mike E coming up!

:)

;)

Tom

***Note*** The above message was intended as sarcasm and in no way reflects the actual views of the poster or his family, employees, and just about anyone else.

The track may look similar and one or two of the supports look similar, but the other supports look nothing, NOTHING like what's going on a Cedar Point.

What they do have in common is that Stengal probably designed them both. ;)

LOL...now that didn't take long at all. That's the spirit LdS. But I could see a vertical lift hill where that little yellow station is in this pic:

(Link to questionably-obtained image removed for legal reasons -- sorry Mike, nothing personal! == GregLeg)

OUCH!! Those flames are really getting hot now. *** Edited 8/31/2006 12:00:28 AM UTC by GregLeg***

mumble mumble...I got yer freakin' vertical lift right here....grumble where's the temperature control on this thing, he's not crispy enough...mumble...hmmm... 800 degrees ought to do it...crazy guy is double posting now...won't be long...

:)

Seriously, it's been entertaining reading 59 pages of this stuff and except for a select few, most of us have no clue as to what EXACTLY it is, although we're pretty darn close to being sure WHO it's by, but stranger things have happened.

Tom

*** Edited 8/30/2006 6:10:51 PM UTC by LdScotsman***

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DawgByte II said:
In theory, you COULD just ignore the posts that make no sense, then the bad grammar & such would just... go away. Otherwise, more time spent on correcting others English 101, is less time spent on talking about "Maverick" (8 days & counting).

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Stands, claps.

Bravo young man, bravo.

Mike E while that pic is the best yet of P07 some folks around here dont like it, and pointbuzz to. So just go ahead and hit backspace on your post. I really dont see what the probelm is with the pic, but it's not my site, so it really does'nt matter what I or others think. *** Edited 8/30/2006 7:12:26 PM UTC by indyandrew***

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a_hoffman50 said:
A slow LIM System, while intriguing, is not possible. The only way the speed on a LIM is controlled is by how far apart each LIM is and how long the LIM run is. That said, it could be possible to stretch out the LIM every fifty or so feet, but it would be a very awkward experience. When you hit the LIM, you would speed up and then slow down due to friction.

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No, that's not true. As someone else already pointed out, the Impulse coasters and especially Marine World's V2 is the best example. Also, remember when there was all the talk about Cedar Point running Wicked Twister at 90% power so it wouldn't crack the track?

As for a LIM coaster going up the lift, California Screamin' is basically just that. Realistically, doing that with the ride doesn't really make sense as a traditional lift is much easier to use in that type of situation, but LIMs can be controlled...

indyandrew, I would say because it violates park rules. Why is that a hard concept to understand?

I wish they'd change the webcam on Cp.com, that hill was one of the first things up, and I'm tired of seeing it, i'd like to see another angle. Especially the other end of this back area. You could get more out of it, than this view.