Cedar Point '07 Project

Friday, May 5, 2006 9:23 AM
Mamoosh, I would tolerate the OSTRS for an entirely new riding experience such as a 4D coaster. I have seen pictures and video of X and I understand how the ride operates.

I would however take a non-looping hyper or nice wooden coaster over a looper anyday. There are a few traditional looping coasters that I do like quite a bit.
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Friday, May 5, 2006 9:29 AM
I dont think there is any practical reason for one park to have more than one mega non-looping coaster but cedar point has quite a few dont they ;)
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Friday, May 5, 2006 9:55 AM
GothamJ,

As someone that has been on TTD, Xcelerator, and Hypersonic XLC, they are roughly the same experience.

As someone that has been on MF and Magnum, they are not at all the same experience.

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Friday, May 5, 2006 9:58 AM
The supports and the track look like exactly whats on speed monster

http://www.rcdb.com/pictures/picmax/tusenfryd/speed-monster38.jpg

speed monster track and supports.

The track at cedar point looks exactly like that but red and the support cement is the exact same shape too.

Now that I see it. It could also be an Intamin Aquatrx coaster too. *** Edited 5/5/2006 2:05:20 PM UTC by majortom1981***

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Friday, May 5, 2006 10:09 AM
Doesn't all intamin track look exactly the same?? At least from this generation of track they have produced - not so much the track from years and years ago.
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Friday, May 5, 2006 10:14 AM
On rides like KingdaKA ttd and millenium Force they used the box track not the triangle track.
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Friday, May 5, 2006 10:17 AM
Yes, it all does look the same. Note the illustration here. The three types, two, three and four rails, and since all three can be found on Millennium Force, and two can be found on Dragster, it's pretty hard to narrow it down to one ride, especially when the four railed type is found on basically all Intamin coasters. *** Edited 5/5/2006 2:24:28 PM UTC by bobthecoasterguy***
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Friday, May 5, 2006 10:18 AM
Intamin basicly has three types of track structure, and all three of them can be found on most of they're coasters depending on the part of the ride. In higher speed/higher force areas, the track is a box shape. In mid speed/mid force areas, the track is a triangle shape, in slower parts of the ride the track is simply two rails with ties between them. So a particular shape of track really does not have anything to do with what type of coaster it will be, but if it is box shaped, it is more likely to be faster or more forces will be generated. However, The different shapes allows the track to span different areas between supports. The two-rail only configuration requires that supports be closer together. The box shape will allow you to span greater areas because the shape of the track itself becomes a structural member. So it could be going fairly slow over a larger span (over a midway for example) and still require a box shape.
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Friday, May 5, 2006 10:32 AM
^ and it costs less if you donĀ“t use four-beem track where it is not needed.
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Friday, May 5, 2006 1:48 PM
Three- vs. Four-beam track relies only on forces, not speed. Even Dragster's brake run (128 mph) is two-beam.
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Friday, May 5, 2006 2:33 PM
I put my money on a triple racing gigacoaster that stretches out into Lake Erie and comes back around into a helix around the giant revolving restaurant that goes with it.

:)

O and themed to rock ponds

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Friday, May 5, 2006 2:46 PM
Couldn't the "2 by 2" be a reference to the seating style of a ball coaster/4D? Two people on each side of the track, or two people facing forward/ two facing backward.

I think it's interesting that the ball coaster style trains seem to flip freely, rather than the precisely controlled flipping of S&S/Arrow 4Ds.

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Friday, May 5, 2006 2:54 PM
Wouldnt that make some people sick?
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Friday, May 5, 2006 3:52 PM

Shivtim said:
Couldn't the "2 by 2" be a reference to the seating style of a ball coaster/4D? Two people on each side of the track, or two people facing forward/ two facing backward.

I think it's interesting that the ball coaster style trains seem to flip freely, rather than the precisely controlled flipping of S&S/Arrow 4Ds.


"precisely" never heard that word and arrow in the same sentence before :D

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Friday, May 5, 2006 4:26 PM
Comparing photos from another site with photos of dragsters track while it was still on the ground. I think I can say that it is 100% positive that this is Intamin track. If you can find those photos, look at #1. Compare it with this.

http://www.pointbuzz.com/Gallery.aspx?i=1594

Notice the two smaller tubes in the cross beam at the left side of the track piece near the rail.

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Friday, May 5, 2006 7:02 PM

Shivtim said:
Couldn't the "2 by 2" be a reference to the seating style of a ball coaster/4D? Two people on each side of the track, or two people facing forward/ two facing backward.

I think it's interesting that the ball coaster style trains seem to flip freely, rather than the precisely controlled flipping of S&S/Arrow 4Ds.


But I don't see why CP would put in a coaster with such low capacity. 4 at a time on that ball coaster just won't cut it. If they did put in a 4D coaster, there would have to be multiple cars per train.

I also think if we are seeing track this early, construction isn't too far away and we will begin to see things taking shape. Especially if we start seeing digging.

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Friday, May 5, 2006 7:14 PM

GothamJ said:
I think I can say that it is 100% positive that this is Intamin track.

Who was questioning that fact?
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Friday, May 5, 2006 8:58 PM

SFoGswim said:

GothamJ said:
I think I can say that it is 100% positive that this is Intamin track.

Who was questioning that fact?

Sorry, some people on other sites i guess were insisting it was B&M track

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Friday, May 5, 2006 9:10 PM
Three coaster geeks happened upon some track at Cedar Point.

The first one said, "That's Intamin track!"

The second one said, "No, that's B&M track!"

Before the third one could say anything a CP & LE locomotive ran over them!

*** Edited 5/6/2006 1:12:31 AM UTC by Mamoosh***

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Friday, May 5, 2006 9:20 PM
I've always dreamed of something like poor Squash was going to say. :)
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