Cedar Point '07 Project

Friday, May 5, 2006 9:33 PM
This is probably one of the best brainstorming threads ever on CoasterBuzz.

I personally don't know how you can make anything out of what's under "the tarp." There is sure to be more to arrive, and soon, so the mystery won't last forever.

I say there should be a prize given for someone who correctly guesses the identity of the 2007 project.

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Friday, May 5, 2006 10:18 PM
Who has to guess? Some of us know.
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Friday, May 5, 2006 10:29 PM
Yup. The answer is obviously a 700-foot launched wooden 4-D flier with a splashdown ending.

Nothing else will do. *** Edited 5/6/2006 2:31:13 AM UTC by IntrepidationAW***

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Friday, May 5, 2006 11:00 PM
don't forget the 10 station flybys and 35 tunnels ;)
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Saturday, May 6, 2006 12:44 AM
Its definately triangular intamin track.

one of the pics is against the track and you can clearly see the triangle shape with the 3 flat circles in a triangle shape and the cross bars that are on the inside of the three main bars.


Now the footers also match up with this.

Now what Kind of intamin coaster we dont know.

For all we know it could be a super heavily themed aquatrax coaster.

if its themed like a mountain that could be why they are starting so early. Get the coaster together first then build a mountain around it wich could take a little time.,

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Saturday, May 6, 2006 12:45 AM
Now we're talking about mountains? We might as well go back to the 500' idea.
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Saturday, May 6, 2006 9:41 AM
Does anyone really want taller coasters anymore? I'd rather have a few more turns, a few successive hills and bunny hops, a helix maybe and most certainly a mountain.

Consider the footers in the pond. Now look at this photo.
http://www.rcdb.com/ig1646.htm?picture=21

*** Edited 5/6/2006 1:56:03 PM UTC by Wabash Cannonball***

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Saturday, May 6, 2006 10:17 AM
I just noticed that Atlantis Adventure also has LIMs, which could make for a very cool experience. Also says that the ride time is four and a half minutes, which is very long. The themeing on that coaster is beautiful and disney-like.
I'm guessing the ride experience is something like CP's Wildcat meets a water coaster. One thing I'm noticing is that theres not a real splash down into the water anywhere - at least not on the rcdb pictures. I did see something that looks like misters on one of the downhill segments. *** Edited 5/6/2006 2:19:12 PM UTC by coasterfreaky***
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Saturday, May 6, 2006 10:37 AM
Wabash:

First, I totally agree with you. Taller and Faster does not make a better coaster. I'd rather ride a good mine train or an out and back woodie than a poor hypercoaster (I'm looking at you, Titan!).

Secondly about the picture, while the footer structure and turn over the lake match, there are paired footers at cedar point compared to the single footers on Atlantis.

This doesn't rule out an aquatrax (it could be a helix or even dual [I doubt it however]), but it doesn't look in favor of one.

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Saturday, May 6, 2006 1:00 PM
A duelling AquaTrax, that makes sense to me.
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Saturday, May 6, 2006 1:22 PM
I have a weird theory on the "2x2" comment.

If this was just an AquaTrax (which would be a suitable replacement as remember the station for the former ride is still aparantly there last I heard and remember from the CP Blog, why would they be starting to build it now? Even a ride like MF or TTD didn't take that much prep time.

Here is my theory...since the current big man wants to go out with a bang, how about 2, yes 2 coasters?

I know it sounds nuts, but that would more then likely seal the "most coasters" record for a good two years, and be able to give something for the family (the aqua trax) and then something more for the enthusists (maybe a 4d, maybe something else).

Just an idea

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Saturday, May 6, 2006 1:42 PM
After looking at all the photos all over the internet of the footers and the now famous 'blue tarp', I have just one question.

What is the logic behind track pieces showing up now? Even as large as MF and Dragster are, there track pieces didn't show up until late summer early fall. I don't believe the 500' hype, but, I just want to know why are track pieces there already.

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Saturday, May 6, 2006 1:54 PM
Like I said. They could have to build theming to the ride.

Say they had to build a mountain around the track. You would have to build the coaster first then the mountain around the coaster.

just because they are building now doesnt mean it will be a huge 500 foot plus coaster. Could just be a heavily themed one that needs the time for the theming.

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Saturday, May 6, 2006 2:32 PM
Expedtion Everest, the only other large mountain themed roller coaster built recently, took over two years to construct the 200' mountain. It also cost $100 million. Atlantis Adventure, the Aquatrax at Lotte World, cost about $29 million and still has beautiful theming. The height (of the coaster) is only 72 feet, however.

And just to calm everything everyone's been saying about Kinzel's going out with a bang, this was over on Pointbuzz:


Jeff said:
You know, I can almost promise you that Dick Kinzel's legacy will not be this ride. You'll see.
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Saturday, May 6, 2006 3:06 PM

SVLFever said:


What is the logic behind track pieces showing up now? Even as large as MF and Dragster are, there track pieces didn't show up until late summer early fall.


Actually, I don't believe that's correct. We didn't see pieces until late summer early fall. I remember at one of the coastermania speeches in 2000 or 2001 that they talked about how MF track was somewhere around the beginning of the 99 season, just nowhere within public view.

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Saturday, May 6, 2006 4:38 PM
The day CF spends $80+M to theme a ride that cost < $20M to build is a LONG way off....really really long. ;)
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Saturday, May 6, 2006 6:11 PM
MrPkI I would totally agree with you. MF, TTD, and WT is enough for Intamin rides in my "opinion". I really think a floorless coaster would be of great interest for CP lovers. Raptor is a 94 model and Mantis is a 96 model. It is now ten years later. CP would have an inverted, stand-up and a floorless. This would be a great addition. Amagine a zero g roll right over the center walkway of CP with TTD's titanic top hat hight looming over it. amagine seeing this from the front gate entrance. "I'm having a moment one second please". *** Edited 5/6/2006 10:15:05 PM UTC by CoasterDiscern***
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Saturday, May 6, 2006 6:16 PM
Why build a floorless when you have another park that you own with one around an hour away??
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Saturday, May 6, 2006 6:32 PM
I guess i'm wrong! I don't know! I mean they havn't built and upside down roller coaster in ten years and it would put the cherry on top of the cake. What would you build then if you already have so many Intamins? The only other thing I personally would like to see other then a floorless would be an el toro. Maybe it would be taking away from mean streak but and el toro would be amazing. Maybe the floorless idea is to much of a gesture. What would you build then dude?
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Saturday, May 6, 2006 6:38 PM

Red Garter Rob said:
Why build a floorless when you have another park that you own with one around an hour away??

Using this logic, GL will never get that hyper, CP will never get a mid-sized woodie. And even though they didnt own GL at the time, why build WT when it is so similar to a competing park a little over an hour away? Why build a new wave pool at GL when cedar point has one?

I really dont think that what another park, whether in the same chain or not has or will ever dictate what any of the CF parks will get as a future attraction.

Not that it really relates to the 07 ride anyway because whatever it is it is an Intamin and not a B&M. *** Edited 5/6/2006 10:40:56 PM UTC by GothamJ***

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