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TM....Thanks Much....;)

Rob, you certainly *are* one confused young man...;)

bill, still can't use the quote feature....or, as the tram driver at SDC said (with appropriate sarcasm)...."real intelligent"....read the TR, wouldya....;)

Not to whinge, but I assume this is an area to offer feedback to the moderators. I dont know about others as I dont bother posting much anymore... what seems like a couple of years back there were no pop-ups, and no redirections, & I really enjoyed actively contributing & reading CB. I've often had to click a second time before reaching the forums as what appears to be an ad-page has appeared when trying to get to 'General Buzz'. I just had the 'please visit our sponsors, you will be redirected to CB in a few seconds' message. Now it takes so long for those of us using slower connections to get to the bit that we want, I think I'm gonna quit trying. I understand the hard work the mods put in here & the need to raise cash somehow. I dont object to the odd pop-up (although I've never followed their links), but this latest is really interfering with my enjoyment of CB. There are many other sites I could visit to discover the latest amusement park news, and many other places to chat coasters which do not irritate readers with ads before they can simply chat rides.

I'm sure others may feel the same way, that the ads have gone too far, making CB not worth botherring with anymore. (statistically for every 1 person who complains, there are 10 who dont!!). Would be a shame for CB to go down the pan for these reasons.

Jeff & others. Please dont be offended. I appreciate the amount of time u have put into CB, but surely we are all here for fun... and not to make a buck.

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CB isn't going down anywhere. The people who pay for it aren't complaining.

You're right, a couple of years ago there were no pop-ups or interstital ads. Those were the days! Everything was free and the Internet was this great utopia.

Since then, real life has settled in, thousands of companies went bankrupt and there are a few survivors that manage to keep the lights on. CoasterBuzz keeps the lights on. If you'd rather help outright, you're certainly welcome to doing so for $20 per year. If that's not worth it to you, great, that's your choice, but don't proclaim the death of something you aren't willing to pay for either outright or by dealing with ads.

Maybe you're not here to make a buck, but I for one would like to someday be compensated for what I do.

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Heck, Jeff, I bet just breaking even would be nice to do...

People seem to think that the internet is magical and high bandwith connections cost the same as their $30 a month residential service.

To host a server (or remote hosting as CBuzz is now) takes cash. Do you all expect Jeff to pay for all this out of his own pocket? So what, you have to wait a few seconds while an ad shows up. If you don't like it, help the site out and pony up the $20 for a year of ad-free surfing of the site. $20/year is only 5.5 cents a day! If you were to cut out two cans of soda a week, it would only take you 13 weeks to save up enough. So don't give me the lame-a** story of "I don't have $20 to spare."

Jeff in getting this to be the #1 coaster community on the net has spent many, many, many more multiples of that $20 to run this site.

You don't like the ads...then pay up and they'll be gone!

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My New Blog...Check it out

I know for me when i started posting i got my first two forums closed within minutes!

That's what i call moderating! Which i still enjoy to this day.

Thanks Mod's and most of all thank you Jeff for being so attentive and closing those forums. Without you there would be no Coasterbuzz, and no smart a** posts. Thanks.

P.S.- Jeff have you ever thought about starting a new forum called "I hate Jeff Putz but I still keep posting club"?

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Your Park only has 1 good coaster! That's too bad!

(Gasp) What?!?!?!? You had YOUR first two threads nuked? Judging from the incredible wordplay, wit and wisdom of the above post, I have no clue how that happened. What an injustice! Say it isn't so!

-CO

(who reminds you: They're threads, not 'forums')

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Threads, Forums, Ying, Yang Whatever..........

(who reminds you that your sarcasm is as funny Chris Fieldhouse).

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Your Park only has 1 good coaster! That's too bad!

It is an injustice, because you know I sit here at work all day, and based upon my mental picture of what some dumb slob looks like, decide at that point to target and verbally abuse people I'll never meet, never talk to and likely would never care about. I make it personal, because this is the center of my universe. Come on, wouldn't you do the same? It's the core value of any megalomaniac like myself.

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Jeff - Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com - Sillynonsense.com
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CoasterPlaya: Wow, that was dripping with so much sarcasm, my post has been drowned! ;)

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"I go out at 3 o' clock for a quart of milk and come home to my son treating his body like an amusement park!" - Estelle Costanza
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Oh no not sarcasm! Someone call the sarcasm cops Coastaplaya layed it on too thick this time!

(Whatever)

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Your Park only has 1 good coaster! That's too bad!

Isn't the most ironic thing in the world that people can't stay away from that which they loathe the most? And people say I'm pathetic.

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Jeff - Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com - Sillynonsense.com
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Hey, look at Jerry Springer's ratings. ;)

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"I go out at 3 o' clock for a quart of milk and come home to my son treating his body like an amusement park!" - Estelle Costanza

l. I certainly empathize with Jeff on the incredible time, effort and money he must have invested in this site. I quite frankly don't know how any of these huge sites are kept on the 'net.

2. However, I have a real problem with Burstnet. I know of many users who only see burstnet ads on this site. I was in a run last Winter during which for three months I was just about unable to use this site due to burstnet ads stacked 7, 8, 9 deep on top of each other and they were all blank. They were opening new boxes faster than I could close them. I don't know why that began and why it finally stopped. It may be imposed on the site from the outside, but why do they single out this site ? They probably target an array of sites, and this is the only one I frequent. Since all burstnet boxes I see are blank, I can't figure out what they're selling, so I can't guess who they're targeting.

That wasn't Burst. They don't do porn-style cascading pops.

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Although lately I've been having a lot of trouble with burstnet. The page frame loads, and the browser just sits there...and sits there...and sits there...and sits there, not displaying any content until the connection to Burstnet finally times out. It was so annoying that for the past week I've had Burstnet in the bozo bin with Doubleclick just so that I could get CoasterBuzz to *load*. (I turned them back on a couple of days ago).

I'd also like to know why the intermediate ad page code (I've referred to it as a "commercial"; I don't know the official term...) screws up the redirect address when it runs in Safari, lopping off the domain name...

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

The "commercials" are known as "interstitials" - I personally think they're the future of web advertising.

I also get the problem with the page frame loading, then hanging on me. Hitting refresh usually kicks it right in. Not sure if it's a certain ad or just certain times, but it still happens occasionally to me.

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The page frame hangs because there's code in there that prevents the page from displaying until the ad banners load, an effort to get the ad in front of your eyeballs before scrolling down to the bottom of the page. What's happening is that www.burstnet.com is, for whatever reason, not handling the traffic and not sending you the ad banner. Flycast.com was a whole lot worse about that; I keep telling Jeff he needs to work out some deal where he hosts the ads on his own server. What's the point of having a great connection to the network if page loads are handicapped by a 3rd-party ad server hooked in through a piece of wet spaghetti?

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

Burst was aware of it, and the problem was actually being caused by a third-party advertiser. They don't directly serve the creative for every campaign, and while their standards are generally pretty high for third parties, some stuff tends to slip through.

Internstitals, which at this point haven't generated a ton of revenue for me, are popular at Gamespot.com, ABCnews.com and a few other places I regularly go to. They don't bother me that much, and I realize they're necessary. I've yet to visit a site that doesn't cap them to one per session.

Your suggestion about self-serving ads oversimplifies a fairly complex system of displaying and auditing the performance of millions of ad impressions per month.

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Coming up later on Fox: 'Adds Going Wild!'

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Jeff said:
CB isn't going down anywhere. The people who pay for it aren't complaining.

You're right, a couple of years ago there were no pop-ups or interstital ads. Those were the days! Everything was free and the Internet was this great utopia.

Since then, real life has settled in, thousands of companies went bankrupt and there are a few survivors that manage to keep the lights on. CoasterBuzz keeps the lights on. If you'd rather help outright, you're certainly welcome to doing so for $20 per year. If that's not worth it to you, great, that's your choice, but don't proclaim the death of something you aren't willing to pay for either outright or by dealing with ads.

Maybe you're not here to make a buck, but I for one would like to someday be compensated for what I do.

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point taken Jeff. And I certainly didn't mean to offend as I clearly stated, just offer some feedback to an issue which appears to crop up in this area of CB often.

I certainly didn't proclaim the death of your site, I did say I'd hate to see it go down the pan, (meaning change its identity as a chat forum, and become another pay-for-membership coaster club which some readers wont bother with anymore). I dont feel CB at present could compete with existing clubs. Its clear that many people still enjoy & are happy to pay for CB, I'm afraid I aint one of them, & I'm quite sure I'm not alone.

I run a website to, it takes little time & effort, & doesn't cost me anything, & I do not wish to be compensated for something I have enjoyed creating, it is a passtime. I could easily include ad-free forums if I desired. I know very little about cyber everything, & so dont wish to get technical cause I'll be out of my depth. I do know however, that there are many places to host websites, with forums, databases etc which are completely free, and without pop-ups & redirections. Yes, some of them have banner ads, but even these are far more tolerable than the above mentioned.

I'm pleased for you that many people are prepared to pay for CB, maybe your intentions are to run a club in parallel with the likes of ACE, ECC & RCCGB. I personally would not like to see more organisations as eventually it will saturate, I acknowledge that peole want to have choices, therefore CB is your site, U take it in the direction u wish!!

Please allow me to advise you whats happening on the other side of the world - there are RCCGB members leaving the club at present due to its rather egotistical chairman, and the poor quality of the newsletter for the $$ they have spent to join. (No hinted references there either before you get defensive again!!) These people are turning to ECC, a generally more friendly club, which produces a regular quality magazine, (which I highly recommend BTW!).

as mentioned earlier, I'll prob be happier elsewhere on the net, I'm just disppointed CB is heading this way, as I said I have enjoyed contributing & reading over the last couple years. Best of luck though. Col.

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