BGT New Coaster for 2005!

Is it safe to assume that the track is coming from Ohio? Anyone know?

Mike

Well, the track has at least one thing in common with the other B&M Dive Machines: the unique double-wheel configuration used with the booster wheels.

Compare: Oblivion and BGT's new ride.

Other styles of B&M rides use clamping and single-wheel boosters, but nothing like those seen on the Dive Machines.

Are those Goodyears? BF Goodrich? Firestone? I'm not sure B&M would want to trust Firestones on their coasters...about as reliable and volatile as a TTD cable ;)

I have never been on a dive machine so I have two questions. Are the trains floorless, or do your feet dangle above a floor like on Nitro. Is it possible or feasable to have a floorless train since it is so wide?

It's actually hard to tell, It could be a dive machine, it might not be...

http://www.rcdb.com/installationgallery1417.htm?Picture=10

Check out that pic of G5, as the wheels look similar, the track here http://www.bgtguide.com/2005/track_18.jpg has notches that arn't flat accross like G5 and Oblivion have. Their track is flat accross. However, it is hard to tell because this looks to be a station peice.

http://www.coasterbuzz.com/trackspotting101.htm

My best guess is a Dive Machine. *** Edited 10/5/2004 1:08:26 AM UTC by Geewhzz***

Yes the track and supports are fabricated at their plant in Ohio.

The tires are Bridgestone

The station track is different than the actual ride track. Also you have to compare the gauge...you will notice that it is significantly wider than any other B&M track.

Conclusion..Dive Machine! WOOHOO!

Josh *** Edited 10/5/2004 1:18:25 AM UTC by Josh***

Well, it's red track and blue supports...must be a Superman themed coaster just being held at BGT until they can get it to the right SF park. ;) Well, if nothing else, it's an interesting color combination as compared to all other Busch Gardens' Coasters. Either way, BGW and BGT sure are taking their sweet time on announcing their respective 2005 attractions...

OK then, we all know what it is so can we please stop comparing tracks like everyone did with Ka?

Well there is also the question of what else this ride does. Maybe it will be a water ride and maybe it will have bunny hills. Or loops.

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Could anybody explain what is added by having double tires, but not double motors? I would think the point of having double tires would be to take stress off the motors.

Double the tires=double the contact between tires and train=double the friction between the tires and train=1/2 the slippage of the tires...the more weight the train is, the more friction needed to get it moving.

Actually, the braking system is segmented in two parts, left and right, mostly because there is no need to have a rolling linkage, as there is only two rows. This probably eases the drive system, allowing two motors to do the job of normally one.

You also had to consider the fact that the car is not very long, so where a train on Medusa can be moved by several motors at once, a car on G5 can, at most, be moved by two. So probably, the idea is to double up the number of wheels to keep the car moving at the rate we'd like.

I'd be interested in seeing a photo of the braking system on the Dive machines. I haven't been able to find any pictures of the brakes. *** Edited 10/5/2004 2:22:48 AM UTC by Zero-G***

I'll take that as a hint, I will see if I can get some pics of the brakes for you.

Josh

What do you mean by that? I don't know anything about this new ride than anyone else around here!

You can kinda see the brake run from here: http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/csimon/alton/images/oblivion/roof2.jpg

Looks like the same brakes on the standard B&M

That would mean that they pinch the outsides of both the left and right brake carrige...

If I'm not making sense with this whole left and right stuff, it can be more clearly seen in this photo: http://www.rcdb.com/installationgallery1417.htm?Picture=17

So if it does have normal B&M brakes, then there must be a pretty sizeable gap between the two brake pads... Interesting! *** Edited 10/5/2004 12:39:09 PM UTC by Zero-G***

Acutally yes. I just downloaded Robb Alvey's Alton Towers vid from his site, and you can see it at the end of the Oblivion POV. They are rather wide.

ok time for me to post...

it looks 100% like a dive machine.

Oblilion in one of my top 10 rides (it's as thrilling as Nemesis, bettern than Inferno in my books), with a holding drop and other stuff which i know BG will add, you guyz are gonna get one hell of a ride. have you guyz thought that it might be a dive/hyper? because Oblivion does have a 180 foot drop ( off the top of my head i think it does anyway lol).

anyway congrats

Edit: oh yea and i saw those pics, i'v never seen another ride with out those wheels on it, apart from oblivion *** Edited 10/5/2004 1:45:55 PM UTC by UK NeMeSiS***

From what I can gather our new coaster will feature a 200+ft first drop. There is a 200ft aviation restriction, but there is also a veerryy deep tunnel being dug as we speak, there should be pictures of that up soon as well. Indeed we are in for one heck of a ride!

Josh

Nice to finally hear/see anything about the new coaster. I'm glad to see B&M back at BGT. :)