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What can be better than spending a day at IOA???
I would love to see some kind of new element. But like IOAhulk said it'll probably be like xcelerator with no more new elements. But then again Knotts didn't really have room for anything. CP has an entire island in the middle of the park.
BTW, somebody said theres some more track there. Has there been any pics of them posted?
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*** This post was edited by RllrCstrDude187 on 8/24/2002. ***
Sorry, guys. No deuling or racing. I have a feeling that this new coaster will be a big-brother version of Xcelerator. After riding Xcelerator, (and cleaning the crap out of my pants) I was wondering why the ride was so short when it is obvious they could have fit more track in there. It makes a lot of sense now. Xcelerator was just a test run for something bigger at CP. The track at CP looks exactly like Xcelerator's
I know that most of you guys have never ridden Xcelerator. All I gotta say is, going over that top-hat and straight down for 200 ft at over 80 mph is friggin' insane. Only X made me say more cuss words!! Over 400 ft at more than 100 mph? You guys are some lucky SOB's!
Even though Magic Mountain is my home park, I gotta give it up to Ohio when it comes to roller coasters. Oh well, at least I got palm trees, beaches, sunshine, and a bunch of fine-ass chicks with nice tans...
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Ok, we still can't rule out the racing/dueling possiblity. Just because someone says it isn't likely doesn't mean it still isn't possible. Lets just think of options here.
Rocket Coaster
Dueling/Racing Rocket Coaster
New breed of Intamin Coaster (such as the flyer)
Hyper/Giga Coaster (Not a possibility because we have MF)
Inverted Coaster (Not a possibility because we have Raptor and Wicked Twister)
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Cedar Point 2003, and it begins...
Finding chicks in Ohio is not a problem. Although, the palm trees and beaches are a little scarce. LOL Anyway, I really hope that there will be some new element in this ride. 400 feet tall and 100 miles per hour is a good as it gets, but I hope that Intamin and Cedar Point will get creative with this ride. Some people weren't impressed with Wicked Twister because, in their "General Public" eyes, it is too similar to other Impulses. If this ride has overbanked turns like Millennium Force, the average guests may feel that the two rides are too much alike. On the other hand, they could be so blown away by the height, speed, and launch of the ride, that they won't even notice.
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*** This post was edited by CoasterKrazy on 8/24/2002. ***
I am in firm belief that it will be 400ft and be somewhat different than Xcelerator.....
To answer the question what can be better than a day at IOA.......A day at Cedar Point of course............
The mystery of the colors is still haunting me...... another thought to myself, maybe the entire coaster will be a bunch of different colors. I wonder if this ride will be over 2 minutes..........The last thing I ponder is if it will be dueling with the Mighty Millennium Force.........
Maybe the ride will make use of underground tunnels multiple times somehow? Maybe we can fool people using different track colors, hehe... :) Looks, it gonna pop up over there... whoops! what the hell? Its over there...
....lol... (Alan's crazy ideas at work)
I did a little bit of research and number crunching to see if the rumored numbers of speed, height and such could be true. This is what I found...
1) A rider would not suffer any form of whiplash. The acceleration from 0-110 MPH would cause no significant G-forces. Assuming it would launch in 2.5 s, the G forces would be somewhere around 2gs and the distance covered would be about 400 ft. Whiplash is caused when the head and neck is moved both forward and backward in a short span of time as well as reaching G forces in excess of 4. (see: http://www.coasterbuzz.com/forums/thread.asp?ForumID=11&TopicID=24699&page=10 )
2) Now, ignoring drag coefficient and other factors, an object moving up at 110 mph would travel 404 ft. Considering that a launch at 35 degrees that would finish at 170 ft off the ground, the coaster would only have to travel 250 feet to make a 420' peak. The extra energy to travel the remaining 154 feet would be negated by the drag coefficient.
Although it sounds a little complicated and my calculations rough, the physics show this coaster is very possible. Everyone enjoy CP in 03!
I already posted this on the news part, but will place this here too. When I went to the point yesterday, some guy from Virginia was telling me in the MF line that it is supposed to be 426' tall and go 135 m.p.h. He also said something about congress making a ban on the height (he wasn't confused with the n.j. law, but also heard of it too). He also said it was supposed to be called "soaring eagle". That's what I heard, and I'm not trying to start any rumors, so don't attack me. I just wanted to let you guys hear what I heard.
It'd be nice if there were TWO top hat... the first one at 400+ feet, the second at 200+ feet... gotta do something with all that speed!! I hope they don't just feed it into the braking system :-(
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Going that fast while alternating red and white might appear pink while going 110 mph. That would be kind of cool.
You guys are being way too outlandish in your predictions and wants. While traveling at these extreme speeds, you can't do much without causing high G's. This means long pull-outs, wide turns, and probably no air hills. An bunny hill would have to be 150 feet just to keep the G's in a safe range.
110 mph would hit 400 feet in a vacuum where there are no losses. I see this launching around 10 mph faster in order to hit that range...possibly higher in order to "settle all record disputes."
I'd just like to say when imagining what can happen/what will happen...use common sense. I knew the general specs of this ride back in May/June just because of little things I picked up through these threads...which is why I seriously doubt they will be duels. I won't dismiss it because many people denied a new ride for CP in 2003, and look how wrong they were...
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*** This post was edited by CPgenius on 8/24/2002. ***
I have some thoughts about the colors.
I don't remember where I had read the rumor but it was a few years ago and it said that CP was getting a steel coaster that was to be many different colors. It was to travel all over the park and when it got near another coaster, it was to be the same color so to blend in with it. It was going to be called the Chameleon (which really isn't very patriotic). It was supposed to be very large.
Maybe this rumor was spawned from the truth of a new coaster in its earliest of its creation. I'm not saying or believing that this is all truth, rather I am saying that some of it could possibily be true. I may have read this old rumor on Screamscape or (the gone but not forgotten) Thrillride. I remember that I thought it to be what is now MF. After MF's announcement, I just wrote it off as a false rumor.
Could this new ride intertwine with some of the parks exsisting coasters? I think that would be ingenious but maby almost impossible.
Wait-Ijust remembered another rumor i had heard about MF befor it was built. While working at the park in '99, I was told by another fellow park employee that MF was going to go through the big loop of mantis. Maybe "Dragster" (as I will call it until the REAL name is announced) was planned at the time as well as MF and this was mixed up before it was leaked out. Maybe "Dragster" will go through Mantis's HUGE first loop, as well as other coasters.
OR I could have read and been told a bunch of BS and I am trying to make something out of a bunch of nothing based on truth.
I'm not saying that I believe one thing or the other. I'm just pondering the posibilities.
I love that idea of changeing colors in tunnels. Like it speeds around Iron Dragon and it's red and then dips into an underground tunnel and when it emerges by Mantis, it's yellow. Then into another tunnel and the track coming out beside MF is blue. Maybe it's just a fantasy though.
dexter said:
OR I could have read and been told a bunch of BS and I am trying to make something out of a bunch of nothing based on truth.
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