track sighted at Cedar Point!!
sorry but your all wrong about the no friction making 400+ feet on 122 mph, SD2k at about 318 feet would go 143 without friction and wind and blah blah blah. Magnum at about 200ft would go 112 without friction so ya need more speed for 400 ft.
You can sheck my math with:
1/2mv^2+mgh=1/2mv^2+mgh top of hill=bottom of hill or vice versa.
*** This post was edited by crash on 8/25/2002. ***
You can't even get the English right and you want people to trust your math?
It has been calculated time and time again that a 300-foot drop will go about 95 mph in Earth's gravity sans friction.
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Crash, the formula is V squared = 2AD. A is the acceleration of gravity and is 32 feet per second squared and D is distance or the height of the hill. Velocity comes out in feet per second and has to be converted to miles per hour.
So multiply 2 by 32 by 456. Find the square root. That is the velocity in feet per second needed to get up the hill.
Multiply that number by 60 and by 60 again to give you feet per hour and then divide by 5280 to give you MPH.
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CPismyhome...I believe the result of the formula, (if my math is correct), would be 117 miles per hour.
-mikey
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You got it. Remember though, 456 will be the max height, from the ground, not the height from the track leading up to the tophat or the hill or whatever.
That means that the train will have that much less to climb. The track may be ten or 15 feet or more above the ground, so the train will not have to climb the full 456 feet.
I think that the train may only lose 5 MPH to friction and wind resistance. Mose coasters are only a few miles per hour different from what their calculated speed should be.
Those trains weigh in at 20,000 pounds or so, so a gust of wind at the top is not going to keep it from going over.
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Would it be possible to put LIM's or something like that towards to top of the top-hat? That way, if the train is not going fast enough because of winds or other factors, they can kick in to make sure it makes it over.
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i have this wild idea that part of this new track might be for an existing coaster that they have to modify or want to modify for the new coaster to fit. on the other hand they may just want to add a new element to an existing ride.
ondrew
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CP ismyhome said:
You got it. Remember though, 456 will be the max height, from the ground, not the height from the track leading up to the tophat or the hill or whatever.
That means that the train will have that much less to climb. The track may be ten or 15 feet or more above the ground, so the train will not have to climb the full 456 feet.
I think that the train may only lose 5 MPH to friction and wind resistance. Mose coasters are only a few miles per hour different from what their calculated speed should be.
Those trains weigh in at 20,000 pounds or so, so a gust of wind at the top is not going to keep it from going over.
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I never thought about that (the track being off the ground).
BTW, do you know if there are any formulas for friction or wind resistance.
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12 pages and 455 posts on a track sighting? Come on, Jeff...hasn't this gone on long enough? There's no new info here, just speculation.
Matthew - realizing no one is forcing him to read.
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'Moosh, that's one post for every foot of track height.....if your going on the 456, which I am not....
bill, saying that 420' is potentially believable based on the 50' start height, assuming a speed of at least 120 mph, which I have strong suspicions will come from multiple "thrusts"....man, now I'm starting to sound like Jeff's TR...;)
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DRAGON2487: Haha last year, I believe the night before Wicked Twister was officially announced, there was a webcam that somebody discovered on the CP website. This was mostly followed over at GTTP. The webcam would seem to change its name from names like "Vektron Cam" to "Gale Cam" to "Twister Cam". There was a distinct feeling somebody on CP's end was screwing with our heads... ;)
Ahh the good ol' days.
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Cedar Point FanBoy since 2001.
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