Tomb Raider: The Ride - Proof of Giant Top Spin

The ride's building is almost covered/completed, and the ride will not arrive until January.

Then how could the ride and its supports to get into the building. I know they will have a crane to get the ride's supports into the building.

The ride's supports would be too big to get into the building because the building is almost covered/completed.

What do you think? The blueprint is fake or not?

Derek

Homey G.,

Thanks...brain fart...

Shaggy ;-)

MARTIN SAID:

Well I just hope that PKI, since spending incredible amounts of money to theme this attraction, keeps it up. Look at all of PKI's previous themed attempts. O's theming looks terrible. The show building hasn't been cleaned since it opened, trash everywhere, lights burned out, etc. Top Gun has no theming anymore except for razor blade advertisements. The employees at Phantom Theater no longer where their black suit uniforms and Top Gun ops don't wear their flight suits. If I'm not mistaken O ops used to have a theme uniform too. So I wish PKI would upkeep their attractions better, because it is a waste of money and time to build a 40 million (+/-) attraction and let it get degraded.

AMEN
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Shaggy, although I agree, Screamscape could have used better judgment in releasing stats on TR:TR. However, shouldn't you be placing the most blame towards the insider who leaked it to Screamscape in the first place. Kings Island was definitely keeping the ride tight lipped and to have someone from the *inside* leak it to Screamscape is poor judgment right there. Yes, Screamscape should've wait, but it goes both ways, cause they (Screamscape) obviously obtained the info from the inside.
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I now laugh at all the people who thought it would be much more than a themed flat ride.
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Tell me why Screamscape should wait? Because the marketing dept. at PKI wouldn't like it? That's a poor excuse. Can anyone give a good convinceing reason why?

-seth

ravenguy98 said:
Tha backlash against PKI, at least on this board, has been going on for a while. It exasperates me, and i don't get it. Its not a new thing that has come along just with TR:TR.

You and me both.
I have never understood this either. It seems like theres an anti-Kings Island bandwagon out there. Oh well, it's their loss. :)
peace, Al

ucdaap42 said:
Tell me why Screamscape should wait? Because the marketing dept. at PKI wouldn't like it? That's a poor excuse. Can anyone give a good convinceing reason why?

-seth

No because it just is not wise any way you look at it.
The marketing concerns make up very little of the problem. To me the bigger concerns that arise are "contractual."
With that having been said, I plan on shutting my trap. If you cannot understand or comprehend the rammifications of such an action as publishing copyrighted/confidential blueprints, then I have no desire to explain them to you.
Shaggy

The scariest part of the ride for me, if it is what it looks like, would be standing in line, then seeing it. To even think I would have to get on one of those would be enough of a scare.
So, HomeyG, do babies get to join:)? A coaster could be a mile high and I will run to it, but a ferris wheel can be a foot high and I'll run from that!
...and the words 'super', or 'giant' right before the word 'wipeout' is not cool, LOL, I hope that dude's alright!

ucdaap42 said:
Tell me why Screamscape should wait? Because the marketing dept. at PKI wouldn't like it? That's a poor excuse. Can anyone give a good convinceing reason why?
-seth

One word....Lawsuit. Since it is priviledged and probably copyrighted information that has not been released to the public they could theoretically be sued if PKI wanted to pursue it for violating proprietary and copyright information and also the "insider" could be fired for providing "insider" information. I know that "insider trading" (trading stocks based on priveledged non-public) information would get me fired on a good day and in jail on a bad day. Another possibility is that Screamscape wont be able to get information from PKI in the future since they are disclosing information that is not publicly know. Thankfully Jeff is much smarter than that in regards to Cedar Point. He probably is in the "know" but has been told not to disclose the information until a certain time/date. He being a responsible journalist is respecting their wishes and not disclosing any information that cant be figured out on ones own anyway as it regards Cedar Point's new ride for 2002.
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Shaggy, what's your problem? If you're not willing to explain why Screamscape should wait, then don't post here at all. "Contractual?" What ever do you mean...are you thinking Screamscape has a "contract" with PKI? I guess you're not being very clear here.

I'm just asking for some explanation, not for you to belittle me.

-seth

You're asking that question to yourself, seth, the answers are already here. People(PKI) have a right to make thier living, without people running interference, that's enough of a reason as to why it shouldn't have gone up.

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PKI put a hell of a lot of work into this to make it unique. In the past few years the rollercoaster community has suddenly turned to revolving around obsession around what parks' future plans are. Way back when, when a park announced a new coaster, it was a very big deal. And usually, it was surprising as well. Instead of ruining parks plans, and working as hard as we frigging can to gobble up ever little secret detail of what park X is building next year, why don't we just respect the parks and let them do things their way?
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I am not belittling you. You delivered the only personal digs here. It began when you spoke of, I believe "my high and mighty nose."

I meant in my most recent post that I have no intention on trying to explain legal rammifications to those that perhaps are not interested, or can not comprehend them.

I do not believe Screamscape has a contract with PKI. I know that PKI has a contract with the builders/manufacturers. These plans were leaked by the builders, not PKI. Thus there will most likely be legality issues at hand. Not necessarily with Screamscape. Scremscape just made a very bad judgement call by posting them. IMO it was not a wise thing for them to do.

Feel free to use my email if you desire to question things about my personal character. I welcome it, but beware... it is a two way street.

Otherwise I intend on continuing to respond as openly and wisely about this subject or any others that interst me. This is a wonderful forum, and I have enjoyed all the topics that I have read and been a part of over the past few weeks. I don't want to bother the webmasters with any further off topic tangents.

Shaggy

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what is a Giant Topspin anyways......Is it like Twister @ Darien Lake??

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I too have thought about the prospect of lawsuits after yesterday, and that goes for anyone who has leaked information, about any attraction. If a park were really serious, they could track down your email address, subpoena you to court and try to make you tell them who told you the information. It's the risk we all take when we post rumors/information.

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Ah, thank you Intamin Fan for telling us that. Now would Screamscape actually be in trouble, or would they just be under oath to tell their sources? I thought you didn't have to reveal your sources, though....Woodward and Bernstein, Deep Throat and stuff? I'm interested in knowing more about the legal aspects. If Screamscape doesnt actually get in trouble but tells who did tell them that, then a lot of people will think 3 times about subimtting a rumor to Screamscape or any other site for that matter.

-seth

Even if there's no legal trouble to be had, it's still something you shouldn't do, IMO. Somebody had to work hard on all that. There's a difference here from your usual rumor, and something like this.
To take someones' work like that, it's so low. There's a million ways to take a little and give alot, like with what CP's getting next year(who's not happy knowing in a subtle, mysterious way for now), people needn't think it's OK because it's not. To not understand why it's not OK, I'll have to agree with Shaggy, some people do not hear what they need to hear, there's no use explaining to people who do not wish to understand:(. To every person who wants to work in the industry, just remember stuff like this.
BTW, I see no risk in posting rumors, there's just a certain style that's lacking most the time, maybe that's why they're no rumors here. And as for Screamscape, let me just say that's why I read this site......

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p_c_r,

I apologize. Being a baby should have also been included in the requirements along with weak stomachs, and inner ear infections. :o)

You guys should lighten up. I doubt anyone here is the reason the information was leaked. From here, it just breaks down into two sides: the side that thinks an injustice has been done, and those that don't. That's all. Hakuna Matata, and viva la CCC. :oD

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I seriously doubt there will be legal matters afoot. It could only be costly and messy for PKI.
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