The real "What is Holiday World up to?" thread

Use it for editing purposes? Had I wrote I researched that, possibly. I was just writing I was thinking over the past few years and it seems they keep within the same budget 2 years in a row, then double it. I could be wrong but I have tried to research there budget practices and can not find much of anything. If someone else is capable of doing this please, by all means. I am fairly sure I will believe Paula with the numbers.

Then I can't wait to see what they do with their $50 million budget in 2010! Or their $100 million budget in 2012! Two years seems to be pushing it though, so they will probably go from 2 to 5 years once they hit $50 million. (rolls eyes)

WOoooooooooAH, I was not dissing Pat Koch in anyway, I was referring to if she were told by Will he wanted to spend 25 million in 2-3 years, then she might have a heart attack. Mamoosh I am fairly sure I am not the only one around here writing poor info, or incorrect facts, or being taken the wrong way.

Okay I edited my thoughts and tried to explain what the Pat Koch thing was about, once again budget info back to 95 would be appreciated, I like to get facts straight and true. Remember facts are just something that can be proved while it might be false, or truth, its still a fact.

I think Paula posted in the Holiblog somewhere that this would be the biggest investment for a long time or ever or something like that.

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Remember facts are just something that can be proved while it might be false, or truth, its still a fact.

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Wow!

Do I even need to?

Anybody else's head hurt reading some of these posts?

As an attorney, I always hate when false facts get in the way of me doing my job! ;)

s'Not worth it, Gonch. Lets just let the kid be.

Here's a fact, according to your definition: Holiday World has 19 roller coasters. Of the 19, 7 are over 500 feet tall and go over 130 mph.........Now does that really sound like a fact? I mean it's false, but its still a fact, isn't it? *** Edited 7/8/2005 10:00:31 PM UTC by BSBMX***

OMG don't you get it...its a false fact! ;)

I wouldn't be too sure of future years budgets being smaller. I do think the 13.5 is a once every few years deal but if they keep growing attendance.

Well, WIll said it! "You keep commin and I'll keep building."

Chuck, who says in five years I could honestly see a steel in the 8-15 million range but there is no FACT in that.

Am I disappointed. I was at HW last week and was only able to find 3 of the 19 coasters. Where are the other 16? Are they out on that Snowy White Road? I know the trees are tall in Spencer Co., but you would have thought that I could have seen those 500 ft. lift hills.

I don't know that HW's "Budget Practices" are, or should be, public knowledge. What they do is their business and ours to enjoy. And for 60 years, they have been doing pretty good job of keeping us happy. "If we build it, they will come" practice has worked quite well for HW. It seems that they work in about a 5 year cycle for "BIG" stuff. '93 - Spashing Safari, '95 - Raven, '00 - Legend, '06 - $13,500,000. But for HW, every year is a good year. Money does not alway equal quality. Some parks could drop twice HW '06 budget and no one would notice. But if in '07 HW only spends a couple of million, there will be a thread on this site and people will be excited. Will and the gang know how to use what they have to work with, and they do a pretty damn good job of keeping us coming back year after year.

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Now this isn't the final number, but a working figure.

It's $13.5 million.

That's $13,500,000.00.

Quick! Someone bring the smelling salts. Mrs. Koch just keeled over.

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I think this quote from the holiblog explains the Mrs. Koch comment. I did not get it at first either.

No not my definition, Websters; fact: knowledge or information based on real occurrences; kind of like the movie, Titanic with Leo and Kate. Also, like the word inoperability: SFKK. Incidentalist , as an attorney false facts are a part of doing your job, if you did it well you would prefer more of them. Paul Drabek I was not aware of that info, thank you. It just seemed to me that every other year their projects seem to double and was wondering how much longer they would be doing this. Also this year the Bahari was the first in an effort to double the size of SS over the next 5 years. In 2006 it seems they will be doing a lot to HW, and very little to SS. So they have 3-4 years left to accomplish what has taken them 11 -12 years to complete , how are they going to do this without spending anywhere near what they are spending this year. I can't say what I do, but if I could you would understand why I am confused!

That is exactly what I meant RavenTTD, sorry I did not clear it up, still have not figured out the quote thing or how to make those lines.

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Websters; fact: knowledge or information based on real occurrences; kind of like the movie, Titanic with Leo and Kate.

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Wow again!

That's an interesting interpretation, but it means more along the lines of:

Gonch says: "I recently visited Indiana Beach"

That is indeed fact based on the actions I took on June 28th where my family got in the car and drove to Indiana Beach and we paid admission and spent the day there.

The information is my statement and it is fact because I based it on occurances that actually happened.

Here's a better Merriam Webster entry for fact:

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3 : the quality of being actual : ACTUALITY <a question of fact hinges on evidence>
4 a : something that has actual existence <space exploration is now a fact> b : an actual occurrence <prove the fact of damage>
5 : a piece of information presented as having objective reality - in fact : in truth

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Just in case you haven't gotten it yet - something false or untrue is not and can never be fact.

(Just glad the story of Leo & Kate isn't in my daughter's history book as the coverage of the titanic :) )

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woohooboy said:
No not my definition, Websters; fact: knowledge or information based on real occurrences; Incidentalist , as an attorney false facts are a part of doing your job, if you did it well you would prefer more of them.

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Information based on real occurences are indeed facts. If it is a fact that it occurred then it CAN'T be false, because it REALLY HAPPENED! There is no such thing as a false fact, you made it up and that is why we are laughing at you. Do I need to dumb it down any further for ya?

Your observations that they may have doubled their expenditures over the course of x number of years may be a fact, I really don't care to look at the numbers. But your assertion that because it happened in the past it is going to continue to happen is an OPINION, and a really uneducated one at that.

Since you were kind enough to insinuate that I wasn't good at what I do then I'll be kind enough to say that you are a freakin' IDIOT!

Fun one here:

Falsehood is a synonym for "lie"

'Fact' is a near antonym for 'lie' and 'Truth' is an antonym for lie.

Something false and the truth (or fact) are complete opposites. Whooda thunkit!?

(Hey, who am I to question the good folks at Merriam Webster? :) )

The next sentence in this post is the truth. The previous sentence was a lie.

mOOSH -- that'll leave the kiddies scratching their heads for a while ;)

Okay, that was circular. Maybe that was a clue? A Thanksgiving rotoricery?