Six Flags' Next Coaster: When? Where?

Wednesday, September 20, 2006 7:52 AM
Notice he hasn't taken me up on my offer. If you're so sure, why not?
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Wednesday, September 20, 2006 8:14 AM

matt. said:

makel said:
It will be called Insanity and placed in a new section of the park called "Wiggles World".

Gee, those 5 year olds are going to pissed when they see a new coaster in Wiggles World they aren't tall enough to ride.

Hence why they are calling Insanity. ;)

Wednesday, September 20, 2006 8:59 AM
I'm not trying to prove/disprove anything here. Of course I like the idea of a new coaster. I have a hard time believing the feasability.

But, last year, I attended a roller coaster design lecture by Larry Chickola. I hadn't thought twice about this, but this topic brought it to mind. He presented a "problem" that he was working on. He showed us a 2-D animated design of a human body riding a "free-flipping" coaster. He talked about damping the flipping to prevent a rider from being upsidedown at a certain point, etc.

While he also said, "Six Flags is under new management who want to focus more on the family, so go ride El Toro-- and enjoy it." I just thought that was interesting to note.

Wednesday, September 20, 2006 11:49 AM
IIRC Peabody,it was Coasterniece who went around spreading that rumor last season.
Wednesday, September 20, 2006 12:27 PM
Makel wiggles world is a kids section why would they place a ball coaster in a kids section?

also wiggles world will be replacing loney tunes seaport , there is no way they are sticking another coaster over there.

Great adventure will not be getting a coaster anytime soon.

From what shapiro said we should be getting some classic flats for either 07 or 08

*** Edited 9/20/2006 4:29:23 PM UTC by majortom1981***

Wednesday, September 20, 2006 7:59 PM
Matt Said:

His only posts are in 2 threads, where he's only talked about this topic. He's made it clear he's already not welcome at another message board, so considering he registered here only for the purpose of revealing this "news," I get the feeling he's not going to last that long. Trolls and spammers tend to be flash in the pan type things anyway...

For all the attention Makel has recieved on his opinions I would hate to suggest he's not welcome to present his theories for entertainment purposes alone. Personally I welcome new therories, crazy as they maybe and the disagreements they may generate. If it just eneded up being the same group with predictable responses each week I wonder how dynamic the conversations would be?

So Makel, please continue to present your ideas. Still, you need to know when to let it go. What I've learned is you need to allow the many that disagree with you, to disagree. You're not going to change anyone's opinion here. We're all enthusiasts who know more then most on these topics. *** Edited 9/21/2006 12:01:08 AM UTC by rc-madness***

Thursday, September 21, 2006 12:48 AM

rc-madness said:

all the attention Makel has recieved on his opinions...

please continue to present your ideas

You don't see it, do you? The problem isn't that he is offering his opinions or new ideas. The problem is that he is stating it as FACT with no evidence to back up his assertion. There's just a little bit of difference between fact and opinion.

On top of that there exists an air of 'holier than thou' attitude from him because he claims to know this is going to happen while we don't. He could be right for all I know, but if he is, then he is certainly violating somebody's trust in him with this information. That's not something to be proud of IMO.

If he was merely offering his opinion or idea makel would have said something more on the lines of, "I think SFGAdv should add one of those Intamin ball coasters with a more elaborate layout for their next coaster." If he had only offered his opinion we wouldn't even be discussing this.

*** Edited 9/21/2006 4:52:10 AM UTC by Incidentalist***

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Thursday, September 21, 2006 7:26 AM
matt.'s avatar

rc-madness said:

For all the attention Makel has recieved on his opinions I would hate to suggest he's not welcome to present his theories for entertainment purposes alone.

1. I didn't say he wasn't welcome. My point was that he's registered here for the sole purpose (at this point) of presenting his "news" and then crying foul when nobody believes him. This is his only source of attention so he's not going to be interested real discussion in other threads. I'm not saying that's *exactly* what's going to happen here, but that's usually the way it goes. I'll be fine with it if he proves me wrong.

2. Like I mentioned before, and the distinguished poster before me did, he isn't presenting "ideas" or "theories." He wasn't saying "Guys, I get the feeling SFGAdv is getting a ball coaster in 2008" or "I have a source that says such and such." He's saying what he has are facts, with nothing to substantiate them, which is fine, but then he claims something is wrong with the people who don't believe him. I agree that it's somewhat amusing but do we need the whole board filled with that sort of thing?

In journalism there's something called "The Front Page Rule." When you have a scoop like this, the idea is that you have to be so completely sure in your source that you'd be willing to publish your news right on the front page of the newspaper, for all to see. If you're not that completely confident, you shouldn't be publishing what you have. I get the feeling Makel would say he'd be willing, but then again his job as a journalist wouldn't be riding on it, either.

Thursday, September 21, 2006 8:35 AM
Great points, important points Matt. If he's new to the blog and he doesn't know how he's ticking off some of the bloggers, here you told him where you think he's crossing the line. Others are attempting to do that in a not so direct kind of way, he didn't get it, but he'll figure it out. This isn't journalism, it's a blog, so relax. This is a world wide discussion open to everyone, is it not?

Besides, it doesn't matter how factual someone thinks their information is. As soon folks say they think he's wrong, I think people looking at the discussion figure out his is an opinion. Whether it's a good opinion or a bad one; I don't need to get into that.

Or maybe I'm totally off base and it's jglonek that's setting the standards for the boggispere journalism with comments like:


Considering how 'accurate' Makel is I'd be surprised if he can hit the toilet when going to the bathroom.

Bravo jglonek, now we can rest easy with you at the helm of journalistic integrity for C-Buzz discussions. *** Edited 9/21/2006 4:12:27 PM UTC by rc-madness***

Thursday, September 21, 2006 6:37 PM
matt.'s avatar This is a message board, not a blog. ;) Also, I'm completely relaxed, about everything. The journalism point was an analogy. I'm also not sure why you're still making the point that this forum is welcome world wide to everyone when I never insinuated that Malek wasn't welcome here, especially when in my previous post I pretty much said exactly the opposite.

I'll say it again, though. It's apperantly not his "opinion" that SFGAdv is getting such and such coaster, he's presenting this to us as tried and true fact. I'm not sure what you're missing here. *** Edited 9/21/2006 11:27:39 PM UTC by matt.***

Friday, September 22, 2006 12:55 AM
rollergator's avatar ^ Nicely said. :)

Opinions are like, well, ya know..... ;)
FACTS, those are harder to come by...


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