Six Flags' Next Coaster: When? Where?

Just curious matt, what could they do with those bridges?

I can see dark rides being installed before another big coaster. especially with the new management being on thier disney kick lol.

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matt. said:Agreed on spinners being cool for both parks, Dan, but then again, after riding SFNE's Pandemonium a few times this year, I'm thinking something like that would pretty much rock anywhere.

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Can ya imagine if they built one over 100' tall? :)

How about counting "big" coasters as "any coaster that is not specifically designed for small children" ie. not a kiddie coaster.

Using this definition, "big" coasters would include such rides as wild mice, spinners, etc.

The main grey area would be such rides as BLTT at SFGAdv, which is more of a family/junior coaster.

I think he means big as a non-family coaster aimed towards teenagers and adults, as opposed to a coaster built for families and small children. For some reason, everyone has had a problem grasping that concept. It's not that hard.

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Camden Crazy said:
I think he means big as a non-family coaster aimed towards teenagers and adults

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There are plenty of those under 100 feet tall, and I think we're having trouble grasping the concept because the the thread title says "coaster" which was then clarified in the thread as "big coaster" which then got changed to "coaster over 100 feet tall." ;) No biggie, whatever, just keep the conversation going.

As far as what SFKK could do with the bridges, I don't really have any concrete ideas, but I'm sure if you got some engineers on board there would be a few options. It would be quite an undertaking which would probably take a long time for approval (all of this is techinically the state's property, yes?) but I mean - you fix it once and forget about it. Just get it over and done with.

Saying what is or what isn't a "big" coaster is like a group of scientists that get together and decide on the official definition of what a "planet" is and isn't, and then what a "minor planet" is. I can see the headlines now...

"Top Roller Coaster Enthusiasts Get Together To Decide What Is A Roller Coaster"

Gonch, Moosh, Jeff, Gator, etc...will join others like Paul Reuben, Robb & Elissa Alvey and other coaster enthusiasts to decide what the exact definition of a roller coaster is, including whether or not powered coasters count as credits...and ending once and for all the eternal debate over whether or not Superman at SFMM is indeed a roller coaster or not ;)

^ I don't think they'd want *me* in there...filibuster city... ;)

Anyhow, I think the term that is being described is "adult" coaster.

If Shapiro thinks your park has too many roller coasters then your park is on the chopping block. So what does that tell you? The question to ask is what does Shapiro consider to be family style attractions? Mine trains, spinning mice, maybe a drop coaster but it is all about families now. The era of big, new Six Flags coasters is done for now and the coaster wars are over. If your SF park doesn't already have a floorless looper, a hyper or a flying coaster, I hate to break it to ya but your not going to get one. Not unless it comes from a SF park recently departed. *** Edited 9/11/2006 4:38:08 AM UTC by rc-madness***

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rollergator said:
Anyhow, I think the term that is being described is "adult" coaster.

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So what qualifies a ride as an 'adult' coaster?

My daughter rode MF with me at the age of 5.

Just adding to the confusion. What is it with enthusaists and their need to classify, qualify and label? ;)

I don't think the topic question is that hard to understand and I think that most or all of the people pretending to be confused are just picking on the original poster.

In answer to the original question, I don't think we will see any new big coasters at a SF park anytime soon. How long is impossible to say but I don't think any projects like that are being considered right now.

Changed my mind (/re-classify). Where is Six Flags' next B&M going?

I think that's a great question. If B&M isn't offering to build lots of spinning coasters, I doubt they are bigs fans of Shapiro, unless Six Flags still has some outstanding contracts with B&M. From what Shapiro is saying we're not due to see too many. My guess is we'll be hearing about more international B&M coaster's being built then here in the U.S. for some time to come. *** Edited 9/11/2006 3:20:51 PM UTC by rc-madness***

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rc-madness said:
If Shapiro thinks your park has too many roller coasters then your park is on the chopping block. So what does that tell you? The question to ask is what does Shapiro consider to be family style attractions? Mine trains, spinning mice, maybe a drop coaster but it is all about families now. The era of big, new Six Flags coasters is done for now and the coaster wars are over. If your SF park doesn't already have a floorless looper, a hyper or a flying coaster, I hate to break it to ya but your not going to get one. Not unless it comes from a SF park recently departed. *** Edited 9/11/2006 4:38:08 AM UTC by rc-madness***

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Well given the current state of SFI's economy if your park wasn't getting any rides prior to Burke & CO. being kicked out of power then odds are highly likely that you're not getting anything under Sharpie & CO.'s regime either.

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RavenTTD said:
pretending to be confused

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It was convoluted because the specifications kept getting narrower and narrower. I have no problem with SFoGSwim and think that once things were clarified that a valid thread of discussion had been opened.

I do have a problem with making claims like what I just quoted from you, however. Totally presumptious and completely off base as well.

That being said, I wouldn't rule B&M out of the SF game just yet. There may not be many built in the next few years but there's always going to be a market for looping coasters of some sort or another. For some sorts of coasters out there there is really only 2 or 3 safe, proven manufacturers, so I think some of that has to get steered towards B&M by default.

I do agree that we won't see many B&M hypers at SF parks any time soon. It's not like the company hasn't proven themselves in the smaller size ranges. *** Edited 9/11/2006 11:21:58 PM UTC by matt.*** *** Edited 9/11/2006 11:22:19 PM UTC by matt.***

Where are Six Flags new B&M's going to come from?

Why...SFMM of course.

With the park facing a near future closing, do we really need to ask where the next large coasters are going to come from?

^ Can SFoG pre-order one Riddler's Revenge, please? LOL!

Seriously though, the talk of SFMM's closure seemed to die down at about the same time there was mention of an upturn in business there. Any *in-house* type discussion about trying to hold on to SFMM, or maybe just delay the closing date? Seems unlikely, given the need for quick funds and the land value of the *impending* Valencia Estates...

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rollergator said:
^ Can SFoG pre-order one Riddler's Revenge, please? LOL!

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Ooh, that way they'll have another standup twice as large but half as good as the other one they have! ;)

^ Imagine the lines for Scorcher... ;)

Besides, when SF has a half-dozen parks and ALL the spare coasters lying around (subdivisions rarely have coasters, hehe)....some parks will have to have "pairs"...

OTOH, if SFoG needs to end up with a "pair" after SFMM goes, how about a pair of looping Anton lapbar terrain coasters... :)

I'm sure they will add family coasters ands such, but I wouldn't count on any big ones for a while.