Six Flags Guest "Code of Conduct"
Mike131 said:That is because nobody tried to understand where I was coming from. They just kept going on about "I dont want to see that, its gross!" or something like that. Nobody tried to discuss the topic in an intelligent manner.
Mike
Im sorry, but I have too respond (this is my only time.) People did try to respond and you only made more rediculous arguements, so lets just cut to the chase and arrive at your penultimate arguement: wearing a shirt is unhealthy because it disrupts body cooling and impeeds the sensory imput of this "sensory organ." The former is wrong because if you get a good shirt you can wick the sweat away from your body, which is actually better for evaporation/cooling then bear back. The second is just flat out wrong, have you ever seen a homunculus? Your brain does not evenly distribute the amount of processing space (which directly corrilates with how sensitive an area is) evenly inch for inch, some parts of your body are more important and thus have more imput. You have the virtually the same amount of "sensory imput space" for your pinky finger then you do for your body and feet, combined! If covering those up causes you to lose touch with your environment, then I hope you never form your hands into a fist because you lose allmost 10X the amount of sensory imput by covering half your hand sensory region, which means 20X more if both fists are clenched.
There, I just saved everyone 3 pages of bickering, good night world!
*** Edited 10/20/2006 4:42:26 AM UTC by Touchdown***
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wearing a shirt is unhealthy because it disrupts body cooling and impeeds the sensory imput of this "sensory organ." The former is wrong because if you get a good shirt you can wick the sweat away from your body, which is actually better for evaporation/cooling then bear back.
I just feel cooler without a shirt on, I guess its different for every person and I assume that depending on the shirt you wear it might keep you cooler.
The second is just flat out wrong, have you ever seen a homunculus? Your brain does not evenly distribute the amount of processing space (which directly corrilates with how sensitive an area is) evenly inch for inch, some parts of your body are more important and thus have more imput. You have the virtually the same amount of "sensory imput space" for your pinky finger then you do for your body and feet, combined! If covering those up causes you to lose touch with your environment, then I hope you never form your hands into a fist because you lose allmost 10X the amount of sensory imput by covering half your hand sensory region, which means 20X more if both fists are clenched.
My problem is that when I wear a shirt I feel needlessly encumbered and its restrictive, my body knows that ive got something unnatural on me that isnt supposed to be there. Also the body cant sense the world around it if its covered up by a shirt, as far as the body is concerned, wearing a shirt is like having a blindfold over your eyes, it can really deny you the full sensory experience of the environment around you. I dont notice the thing with my hands when I ball them into a fist, I assume what you say is true I just feel there is a difference between balling my fist and wearing a shirt on my torso. Ive never actually heard about that.
Mike
It's pretty difficult to have an intelligent discussion with someone whose argument is just plain naive, unintelligent, and uninformed in the first place.
-Nate
coasterqueenTRN said:
I am curious to see the employees "code of conduct." "Don't curse at or around guest!" should be in there somewhere. ;) "Don't blow off guests when they have an inquiry or complaint" should be in there as well.Also "don't talk on your cell phone telling your friend how much you hate your f****** job while checking restraints" and "do not smoke if you are not on break" should be in there as well. ;)
"Enforce the rules" is not NEARLY forced enough on the employees sometimes. If management doesn't care if a guest smokes in line then why should the employees?
The apathy starts at the top. I have seen other guests do more to enforce the "no smoking in line" policy more than the employees. ;)
-Tina
*** Edited 10/19/2006 1:31:57 PM UTC by coasterqueenTRN***
Wow, that stuff makes the things I saw at SFWOA seem like nothing.
They really talked on cells while loading trains?
Great Lakes Brewery Patron...
-Mark
Mike131 said:No ride op at a SF park shoud allow anyone to ride without shirts, shoes, and shorts it's in all of the SOP's it's a safety/ health issue.
Thats a convient excuse but not really practical. There are very few if any shirtless/barefoot related injuries that have happened at theme parks where people have gone shirtless/barefoot.
The chance of a person that is aware of their surroundings getting hurt by being shirtless/barefoot is slim. As for the health thing, nobody is gonna get sick and die just because they went on a ride that someone was shirtless/barefoot on before them.
If the ride op's are soo worried about sweat then they should just wipe the seats down or spray them with some kind of disinfectant regularly before anybody else gets on. Besides what are the chances of someone contracting a diesease from someone elses sweat, especially if they have a shirt on between them and that other person's sweat.?
What if the ride gets stuck and you have to walk down. That won't feel good without shoes. Shirtles what if something breaks on the ride and grease gets sprayed on you.
Security: Sir, you must wear a shirt to get on this ride.
Mike: I'm wearing a virtual shirt. See? <holds out bot>
Security: Carry on.
Hobbes: "What's the point of attaching a number to everything you do?"
Calvin: "If your numbers go up, it means you're having more fun."
What it all comes down to is that it's a personal problem. It's your problem. It's nobody else's, nobody else cares, and nobody really wants to see you clog up another thread with ludicrous arguments.
It's pretty difficult to have an intelligent discussion with someone whose argument is just plain naive, unintelligent, and uninformed in the first place.
Well actually its everybody's problem. If you allow these guys to ban bare chest and feet then what makes you think they wont go further and ban flip flops, tank tops, shorts and any thing else you like to wear there in the name of making the park "family friendly"? Sometimes you just gotta say enough is enough. Otherwise they will just walk over you.
Mike
What if the ride gets stuck and you have to walk down. That won't feel good without shoes.
Then i guess I will just have to be uncomfortable. Thats my choice. Why should I have to wear shoes just because someone decides to make some arbitrary decision for me?
Shirtles what if something breaks on the ride and grease gets sprayed on you.
Then I guess ill get real dirty and have to go get cleaned up. If I was wearing a shirt then the shirt would get ruined and id have to take it off anyways. Either way itd be really messy. Besides why is this anyone else's business but my own? Its my body.
Mike
I know who's going to be first in line for a shirt-bot.
Security: Sir, you must wear a shirt to get on this ride.
Mike: I'm wearing a virtual shirt. See? <holds out bot>
Security: Carry on.
What is a shirt bot?
Mike
Young kids are uneducated with one single purpose. Have as much fun as you can in the span of the day.
And really, I can't think of anything more family friendly than sitting around without any clothes on.
-Nate
wheels00000 said:
That would be Area One the worst in the park. *** Edited 10/19/2006 1:44:29 AM UTC by wheels00000***
You know,it would help if they'd add a designated smoking area in coyote creek....I hate having to walk all the way back to skull island,or GC just to have a smoke if I'm in that area & enjoyed it much more last year when I could freely enjoy a smoke while just walking from ride to ride.
PKD's smoking areas are far worse though as once again the maps are incorrectly marked & the only areas I could find in the entire park were over by FOF<when the map indicated a newly designated area across from IJ:TC that's non existent>& over by shockwave's exit.
As for enforcing the verbal conduct code I can just see it now...a whole queue full of guests are lined up for supes & the thing breaks eliciting the standard "aww sh*t the d*mn ride just broke" in response resulting in all of those guests having to be booted from the park....now with a ride like that which has been having the problems that it's been plagued with one can easily imagine the number of guests being given the boot just in one hour alone as a result.
coasterdude318 said:
What it all comes down to is that it's a personal problem. It's your problem. It's nobody else's, nobody else cares, and nobody really wants to see you clog up another thread with ludicrous arguments.
It's pretty difficult to have an intelligent discussion with someone whose argument is just plain naive, unintelligent, and uninformed in the first place.
That sound we just heard was Nate hitting the nail on the head :)
FLYINGSCOOTER said:
Wow, that stuff makes the things I saw at SFWOA seem like nothing.
They really talked on cells while loading trains?
I just saw the one dude talk on his cell phone as he was checking the restraints. He was in his own little world. The other ride ops didn't seem to care that he was sharing his conversation with everyone that could hear his cursing.
coasterdude 318 said:
If we allow people to go shirtless in the parks, what will come next? Soon, people won't be required to wear any clothes at all. Everyone will just be running around naked! It's a slipperly slope, people. Oh, the horror!
And really, I can't think of anything more family friendly than sitting around without any clothes on.
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Hey! I am all for it! Clothes can be SO bothersome (unless it's cold!) Unfortunately I am a female so the shirtless thing doesn't apply to me anyway. I could get arrested, not told to go home. ;)
Then again I have seen guys with much bigger boobs that should NEVER be allowed to walk around shirtless, even in a waterpark. ;)
Can you imagine everyone naked at the ACE buffet? Now THAT is just a disturbing visual!!!!!
Now I am traumatized at the thought. ;)
As far as going barefoot in a park, who on earth would want to do that anyway? I happen to LOVE wearing my sneakers unless I am in a waterpark, then I wear those water shoes.
-Tina
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coasterqueenTRN said:
Can you imagine everyone naked at the ACE buffet? Now THAT is just a disturbing visual!!!!!
Now I am traumatized at the thought. ;)
I may never eat again.
:)Wouldn't that be a great disguise for a Halloween party though.
w-w-w-what are you????
I'm disguised as a nudist ACE member!
*** Edited 10/20/2006 8:21:14 PM UTC by coasterqueenTRN***
*** Edited 10/20/2006 8:28:55 PM UTC by FLYINGSCOOTER***
Great Lakes Brewery Patron...
-Mark
If we allow people to go shirtless in the parks, what will come next? Soon, people won't be required to wear any clothes at all. Everyone will just be running around naked! It's a slipperly slope, people. Oh, the horror!
And really, I can't think of anything more family friendly than sitting around without any clothes on.
Well nudity is illegal in public so even if they allowed customers to go shirtless/barefoot they wouldnt allow them to go nude. Thats a whole different can of worms.
You know,it would help if they'd add a designated smoking area in coyote creek....I hate having to walk all the way back to skull island,or GC just to have a smoke if I'm in that area & enjoyed it much more last year when I could freely enjoy a smoke while just walking from ride to ride.
Why not just quit smoking/dont start smoking in the first place? Its not good for you and its not healthy for other people. I would think you could get through a whole day without smoking. Now there is a real health issue.
As for enforcing the verbal conduct code I can just see it now...a whole queue full of guests are lined up for supes & the thing breaks eliciting the standard "aww sh*t the d*mn ride just broke" in response resulting in all of those guests having to be booted from the park....now with a ride like that which has been having the problems that it's been plagued with one can easily imagine the number of guests being given the boot just in one hour alone as a result.
I think that verbal rule is aimed more at people who walk around the park constantly cursing and saying swear words all the time and not somebody who gets hurt or momentarily upset and happens to blurt out one bad word. I doubt theyd kick you out for that.
Hey! I am all for it! Clothes can be SO bothersome (unless it's cold!) Unfortunately I am a female so the shirtless thing doesn't apply to me anyway. I could get arrested, not told to go home.
Its even worse for women there because they cant even wear a bikini top. I guess they figure even bikinis harm lil kids. I doubt any man in his right mind would stop you there if you didnt have a shirt on. They like going after men for that.
Then again I have seen guys with much bigger boobs that should NEVER be allowed to walk around shirtless, even in a waterpark.
They have to be fair, if they allow the skinny good looking guys to go around shirtless then they have to allow the bigger guys with the man boobs walk around shirtless as well. Ya cant make someone put on a shirt just because the sight of their body just happens to gross you out.
Can you imagine everyone naked at the ACE buffet? Now THAT is just a disturbing visual!!!!!
I dont know why that would be disturbing, its just naked bodies. I wonder why some people seem to have body phobias here???
Now I am traumatized at the thought.
Youll live, its not like youve been scarred for life or anything. You wont die anytime soon.
As far as going barefoot in a park, who on earth would want to do that anyway? I happen to LOVE wearing my sneakers unless I am in a waterpark, then I wear those water shoes.
Lots of people would enjoy it, youd be surprised. If you are comfortable wearing your shoes then do so nobodys gonna stop you, but I think you should let those who wanna go barefoot do so. I mean why would you care what other people do with their bodies?
Mike
It's all good. :)
What DOES bother me is line jumpers, people who smoke in line, and employees who don't care.
-Tina
*** Edited 10/20/2006 9:58:15 PM UTC by coasterqueenTRN***
Closed topic.
