Shanghai Disneyland will close in effort to contain coronavirus

TheMillenniumRider said:

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Since we are conspiring, what’s the deal with the push for Covid diagnosis? Are the doctors getting paid more or something?

Delusional blah, blah, blah

As an ED physician of 35 years, I’m quite confident in my diagnosis of you as a moron.

Jeff said:

I listened to a woman at Epcot today ranting to her friend about all the dead people who voted in not just the last election, but both of Obama's elections. She believed every word she said. It's the first time I've heard someone be that willfully stupid in real life.

TheMillenniumRider said:

The things he said

I think it's the same thing here. The saddest part is that these people truly do believe the lies and nonsense as fact, and it's not hard at all to see how that happens. At this point it is going to be tough to move away from this in our society with the willful misinformation and lies being spewed from so many sources on a daily basis.

Hey folks. I disagree with TheMillenniumRider as much as, if not more than anyone else, but we don't have to make it personal.

Thing is, it was an honest thought. Doctors are very Covid forward, even when dealing with someone who is vaccinated and tests negative. I’ve had a few of my team at work with the same issue, so naturally I wonder why they are swearing Covid, even when the data in front of them says no.

Thought as in "that could be a scenario that could happen" or as in it really did happen?

Happened three times. One diagnosed with bronchitis, two with RSV. Do you see how you don’t trust my statements. That is what the whole world is doing. With vaccines, governments, media, corporations, friends, family, etc.

There is no trust in anyone or anything anymore.

sws said:

TheMillenniumRider said:

blah, blah

Since we are conspiring, what’s the deal with the push for Covid diagnosis? Are the doctors getting paid more or something?

Delusional blah, blah, blah

As an ED physician of 35 years, I’m quite confident in my diagnosis of you as a moron.

Wouldn’t a psychiatrist be more apt to make those judgement calls?

TheMillenniumRider said:

There is no trust in anyone or anything anymore.

I actually have plenty of trust in many people and many things. But the people are trustworthy and the things have proven facts to back them up.

You sir are a better man than I. I have lost trust in people and things over the years. I keep very few close enough that I can trust. I have just caught too many people talking out their behinds, lying, or just trying to pull the wool over your eyes.

Trust is not the same thing as data, though. You're drawing a conclusion one way or the other. Drawing the conclusion that you know the motivations of doctors and the way they are paid is just a wild guess, not supported by any data. Skepticism may be warranted. Baseless guessing without any evidence makes you one of the very people you loathe: untrustworthy.

Personal story about how conspiracy theories affected me...

Maybe about 15 or 20 years ago, I was really into conspiracy theories. I frequented a popular discussion website on the topic. I got in deep.

And it gradually drove me insane. All the paranoia and impending doom... It made me suicidal for a very short time, which is nothing like my character. About two minutes of planning how I would kill myself, a jolt of sanity rushed into my mind- like a jump scare in a movie.

I clicked off the website and never went back (until recently, but more on that later.) I started studying happier topics instead, and found myself again.

I don't expect it would affect everyone that way, but I learned from experience how exposing oneself to that every day could do some major damage.

I recently went back to look at the website, and it's as insane as ever. Lots of talk about Qanon, and all totally pro-Trump.

And I keep saying that lately, I feel like I am trapped in an episode of The Twilight Zone. I understand how people can get trapped into thinking reality is not real. I also know the damage it can do. Yet, there is nothing I can say or do to stop it from happening to people.

LostKause said:

Maybe about 15 or 20 years ago, I was really into conspiracy theories. I frequented a popular discussion website on the topic. I got in deep.

Facebook? /s

sws said:
As an ED physician of 35 years, I’m quite confident in my diagnosis of you as a moron.

You’ve been an Erectile Dysfunction physician for 35 years? No wonder that response came off sounding like a dick.

LostKause said:

Personal story about how conspiracy theories affected me..

And I keep saying that lately, I feel like I am trapped in an episode of The Twilight Zone. I understand how people can get trapped into thinking reality is not real. I also know the damage it can do. Yet, there is nothing I can say or do to stop it from happening to people.

are you saying the matrix is real?

I’ve got nutty neighbors who say it’s all a hoax. And that whenever anyone’s sick “they” just say it’s covid. And whenever anyone dies “they” automatically put it under the Covid column. When asked how they can be sure all they can say is “they” make money by doing so.
After a couple of attempts I quit asking how they know about any of that and what proof they have.

You know Covid aside, one of my employees mom had just died from cancer. She went to the doctor numerous times, told it’s because she was overweight, she had pain in her hips. They always told her it was her weight and then when it was too late said whoops, guess it was cancer this whole time.

doctors may be experts, but they cut off the wrong limbs (I know one of those as well) and they misdiagnose, and they just plain get it wrong. It isn’t every day, nor is it the majority, but it’s often enough to make people think twice when they get a diagnosis.

we are surrounded by misinformation, and constant advertisement and marketing bombardment, people have no time to turn off and disconnect and be able to have a thought for themselves. It does not surprise me at all that we have gotten to this point in society.

Sir, nobody said “whoops, guess it was cancer the whole time”.
I don’t get your point. I’m about as boomer as they come, but your generalizations are pretty sweeping. I mean even I manage a thought on my own.
People in every profession make mistakes. Granted, some mistakes are more grievous than others, particularly those made by medical professionals. But we’ve all heard the wrong limb story a million times.
As for Covid, I’d like to say “it’s not their first rodeo.” But it kind of is.

Who's they? (NSFW)

You gather up a couple of anecdotes for which we have no specific details, and then generalize that the whole profession is broken... that's willfully stupid. That is misinformation that you're manufacturing and spreading.

Well shoot, guess I'm spreading misinformation then, let me just exit stage left. I'll let the guy with no legs know that you all have heard that story a million times.