SFGAdv Invitation Scan, DEFINITELY WORLD RECORD

Wow, the Cedar Point fanboys are all out and angry. Don't get me wrong, I love Cedar Point, but I could care less if they're losing their record. It's what we all call "compitition." You see, it's compitition that keeps coasters going taller and taller. If Steel Dragon and Dodonpa wouldn't have been built, there would be no need for Cedar Point to build TTD so big, if they even would have built it at all. It's going to keep going like this until some skyscraper or observation tower gets the permits to build a coaster down the side of the building and changes the record to like 700'. Then it will just be at the point where any conventional park cannot afford to build a structure tall enough to support the ride.

The fact is SFGAdv will hold the record for tallest and fastest coaster even if it is only a few feet taller and a few mph faster. You all didn't doubt Steel Dragon 2000 when it opened after Millennium Force even though it was only a feet tall and a few mph faster. SFGAdv gets the bragging rights and people who rode TTD will no longer be able to say they've rode the tallest and fastest coaster until they've ridden SFGAdv's new ride, simple as that...

Oh yeah Jim, I am all about the Orange and the Black. :) Especially when my allegiances bring me out to the West Coast for free! (Bless those alumni hearts!)

Uhh - I didn't see a single post about Cedar Point losing their record in this whole thread? If you want a fanboy comment, Millennium still took #1 in the Golden Tickets and since TTD hasn't been able to rise above 7, I doubt this one will take the top spot. No one EVER brought up Cedar Point but you, buddy.

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ApolloAndy said:

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Kris Wempa said:

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Whatever you say....

I don't see S:UF stack that much, but I've *only* been to the park 9 times so far this season.

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It all comes down to how quickly the operators can launch the trains. I agree that there's no need for 2 stations *IF* the operators can launch a train in 1-2 minutes. The ideal scenario is to always have 1 train going through the circuit and 1 train loading. Then, when the train finishes the circuit, it should have little to no wait before moving into the station. This has DEFINITELY not been the case any of the times that I've been on S:UF. I also agree that the restraints are so well designed that there's NO reason the operators should take 3-4 minutes to launch the trains. Well, they DO take that long (at least everytime I've been there). As a result, a line that should be no longer than 45 minutes ends up being 1 and 1/2 hours.

I can probably be charged with being a CP "fanboy" but I have no issues if someone goes taller than Dragster. I really don't think Dragster had the major impact that it was expected too.

I have said before that I would rather see CP start spending some money on quality vs. quantity. I want the wow factor sitting in the train vs. looking at it from the midway.

Lastly, I would be hesitant to green-light a project like Dragster without first knowing that all of the problems with it have been worked out.

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Coaster Lover said:
It's what we all call "compitition." You see, it's compitition that keeps coasters going taller and taller.

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I kind of agree with that. But at the same time, that's exactly what's not interesting or good about things right now. Wouldn't things be a lot more fun if that last line read:

"You see, it's competition that makes coasters better and better"

Taller does not equal better.

That's why you're seeing people mentioning taking a few hours to check this record breaker out when they hit Dorney next year. :)

I mean, it's a great marketing angle and all, but as an enthusiast I'd rather see a better coaster, not a taller coaster.

*** Edited 9/23/2004 12:42:01 PM UTC by Lord Gonchar***

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the Cedar Point fanboys are all out and angry

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I guess Cedar Point fanboys have such a reputation, people already know what they're going to say before they even say it! Someone's going to take a world record from Cedar Point. Gee, that's never happened before. Quick, someone get me a tissue.

Records are fun, especially for marketing. But if anyone here thinks that world records equals best park or best coaster, then you don't understand the business. If a park thinks it helps the bottom line to break a record, then they should do it. It's not done to satisfy one's ego.

*** Edited 9/23/2004 1:00:51 PM UTC by Gemini***

I am just sitting back and waiting for next season, when we have to hear from all the CP fanboys (me being one of them) pulling their hair out about "OMG I WAS IN LINE FOR DRAGSTER AGAIN TODAY AND THIS DUDE WAS TELLING HIS GIRLFRIEND THAT THIS IS THE TALLEST AND FASTEST COASTER IN THE WORLD!!!! OMGWTF DOESNT HE PAY ATTENTION LOLZ!!!!"

*sigh*

Lucky us. We get the RCT3 demo on Monday and the SF announcement on Wednesday. Is anybody here going to be there?

A better question would be how many there would be here?

Bad bad...so yah, I'd love to be there, but I'll be somewhere else. But my interest is piqued. (Nitro, did I spell that correctly?) ;)

I'd love to go...but I'm not media, so oh well.

Hrmmm, I find it funny that people keeps saying that this coaster is going to be a few feet and mph faster than dragster. To my knowledge, there are no facts about this coaster other than it's at Six Flags Great Adventure and it is Lime Green and Blue.

WAIT UNTIL THE ANNOUNCEMENT. If it's 421.5ft then you can bash the coaster.

Maybe it's just me (and this might have been discussed in previous pages), but the train in the pic seems to be going up the twisted part of the track.

Maybe its just a lighting trick. (?)

Or maybe the train design is different than Dragsters?

JC

I wonder what their answer will be to the previously stated length being what it was... how much of a chance is there that it will actually be that length?

What was the previously stated length? Less than 2800, wasn't it? Maybe it will just have a really, really, short launch.

Jan, dead on. But since I'm hopping a plane for your neck of the woods tomorrow, you're gonna have to learn to use your new best friend, the dickshunairee! ;)

And Rail, there are at least 15 pieces of launch track on site. By comparison, TTD's got 14 pieces of launch. I'm gonna go ahead and say it's a safe bet that the original track length figure is wrong.

*** Edited 9/23/2004 6:57:24 PM UTC by Nitro Dave***

The track length is wrong.

Just an observation...

When I was at CP over Labor Day weekend, my sig. other thought that Dragster looked rather...er...phallic. So could we just say that this is a fight between the parks to see who has the biggest...er...phallic symbol?

Maybe it's just a pissing contest?

It's not the quality of the ride that matters, it's the size of your tophat? *** Edited 9/23/2004 8:10:41 PM UTC by Kick The Sky***

Or some kind of contest related to that general area? ;)

-"Mind in the Gutter" Rob