Screamscape: PKD FOF Not Reopening?

Wait a minute. Premier redid the electronics on Stealth on the move from PGA to PCAR? I didn't know this. So does this coaster not have the same problems that Batwing and X-Flight have encountered? Examples, reclining on the lift, raising on the brake run and into the station? Seats that willn't lock? All of that stuff.

Oh. Mr. Shapiro. Are you reading what I'm reading? Their is a small amusement park in Maryland that could use the same retrofit of electronics?

...and Premier is located in....that's right, MD... ;)

Stealth used a different system than Batwing and X-Flight. Stealth/Borg does not have any motors in the train so the reclining and raising can only be done in the station. You can see where mechanical devices grab the cars to lower and raise them. If Premier redid the electronics, I'm not sure if that was an improvement as Borg was having plenty of problems when I visited.

coasterguts,

X-Flight and Batwing are far superior design-wise and technological-wise as compared to BORG, the ride formerly known as Stealth.

BORG reclines up and down in the station with the help of an elevator beside the train (in the station) and is then locked into place. X-Flight and Batwing have motors on each car to raise and lower the cars. I'm not sure how BORG operated as Stealth, but from how I see BORG running now I don't see it as much of an improvement over X-Flight and Batwing.

Don't get me started on those awful seats!

EDIT: Doh! Jeffrey beat me to it!

~Rob Willi *** Edited 1/27/2006 6:06:16 PM UTC by HeyIsntThatRob?***

I hope it's a rock re-theme...take away the spaceship in the queue line, that way there would be no outdoor line at all...when i was there, there was so much possible room to use indoors for the queue line, but a lot of it was used for theming...put that giant hunk of a ship in the middle...maybe they'll put a giant drumkit there now and you can walk into the middle of the bass drum ;)

Me, I'm personally hoping for Metallica, Audioslave, Guns N' Roses, or Van Halen. Aerosmith was already taken :)

Thanks for the info guys.

BigJim - I'll take the drum kit only if Neil Peart is sitting behind it! :) and yes Gator that 's what I'm getting at. ;)

Well, with the potential sale of all of the Paramount Parks, who knows what is going on.

Or you could theme it to Michael Jackson, so when you get the restraint fastened, the ride operator touches your wee wee with a white glove.

A'tee hee!

LOL.

Theme it to Thriller, make it all creepy graveyard looking!

ive been looking at the rumours here and at PKDPlace, and i dont what to make of this honestly. but count me out of the retheme group. i just dont see the point in closing a ride for an entire season just for a retheme. i mean, the FoF building isnt exactly a huge space. seems to me it should only take a few months to do what they would need to do to make a new theme...

but another idea came to me. what if the park doesnt have the operating budget to run three LIM powered coasters? i mean, Volcano and FoF together, i would think, take a whole lot of juice to run. and i dont count Hypersonic, because really, its nothing more than a big, fancy air compressor, which i wouldnt think would be a huge drain on power. now with Italian Job (it is LIM powered right?), that would be even more electricity being used, AND from what i can tell, in the same general area of the park, which means the three LIM coasters would be all on the same power grid. energy costs here in Virginia have gone up considerbly, as i am sure they have everywhere else. high oil prices, the recent deaths in West Virginia bringing a virtual hault to coal exportation from the Appalachians, all add up to whats sure to be a record quarter regarding energy costs. and with Paramount Parks heading into a sale, its possible that the park may want to cut down expenses as much as possible.

so they might have sat down, and decided of the two standing LIM coasters, Volcano was the bigger expenditure and more popular/visible attraction, so keep it and 86 FoF. just my two cents. mind you, this is only my opinion, i didnt get this rumour from somewhere else, so dont take it to the bank, lol...feel free to comment

stinks though, if indeed FoF is gone for good, i really did like that coaster. after the restaint change, it became a really fun ride. still doesnt beat Jokers Jinx (its all about no MCBR friends lol), but a fun ride nonetheless...

Tim

^That makes no sense whatsoever.

If electrical demands are the prime concern for closing FOF then don't you think the park would've taken that into consideration before they even requested that a clone of IJ:TS< or whatever they'll call it next> be designed & built?

I mentioned the power supply thing on a Carowinds discussion group last week. How ironic that someone else would think the same thing. They had to build a separate substation after they installed V:TBC. There simply wasn't enough power coming from the single substation to run FoF & V:TBC (hence the rollbacks on V:TBC). Parks don't always think things like this through. There's no doubt that adding IJ they have one helluva power bill. Although I doubt this would be the sole reason to relocate FoF, it could be a factor. Besides, the same damn coaster is 90 miles north at SFA.

The facts remain though. Bids were placed by contractors back in early Dec. for relocating the ride. *** Edited 2/5/2006 2:17:32 AM UTC by swampfoxer***

Someone asked about Flight of Fear today at Eastcoaster and the answer was "It won't open for 2006." The followup question about 2007 was left open ended with no answer.

batwingfan, it was a fair statement, and in my opinion, a decent educated guess. i am not stupid. energy costs have gone up considerably, recently...im sure that Italian Job has been in the planning stages for a long time. i was just suggesting a theory. if you take the time to read everything i said, i did say "dont take this to the bank", that it was just an opinion. feel free to comment about what i said, but dont question my intelligence, when well over half of your posts are always whine sessions about your park not getting this or that.

if you want to match wits with me, try actually giving it a shot next time. *** Edited 2/5/2006 8:03:18 AM UTC by vacoasterfreak*** *** Edited 2/5/2006 8:05:28 AM UTC by vacoasterfreak***

Well i know PCW had this exact same problem until they bought a completely new power grid about a year ago.

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dragonoffrost said:
Someone asked about Flight of Fear today at Eastcoaster and the answer was "It won't open for 2006." The followup question about 2007 was left open ended with no answer.

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Not to nitpick, but I believe the answer to that question was also, "Flight of Fear will not open in 2006." ;)

Yeah... I think you have to read between the lines.

Yeah which to me is no answer ;) The funny thing was the way PKI's PR rep said that PKI's would be running in 2006. It came out sounding to me like a hint that something may be happening there also after 2006. *** Edited 2/6/2006 5:01:57 PM UTC by dragonoffrost***

Wasn't avalanche also unexpectedly pulled from the site as well?now if it was I don't see how a retheme of FOF could possibly effect avalanche's ability to operate so I'm wondering if both coasters might possibly be on the list for removal & something else might take it's place?

Could it be<...& I know I'm going out on a limb here> that they may be in the initial planning stages to add something like a hyper in that section of the park?it's always a possibility but one that at this point doesn't seem likely but I just thought I'd throw that in to see what everyone thinks.