Scream So Far= Medusa east Mirror

Tuesday, February 25, 2003 12:22 PM
Scream appears to be an exact mirror of medusa east so far. If it turns out to be that is evil cause clones are bad but even if it is californians be happy cause it is an awesome ride and your colors are better. :-P
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Tuesday, February 25, 2003 12:29 PM
Dude, its not a mirror. It has some of Medusa East's elements, but in a different order and layout.

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Fly with the man of steel in 2003!

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Tuesday, February 25, 2003 12:32 PM
but dude it looks just like it so far even the bank in the drop and into the diving loop
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Tuesday, February 25, 2003 12:40 PM
Who really gives a rat's you-know-what if it is a clone of Medusa east? It's a new B&M coaster, it's an awesome design... who wouldn't want this at their park? I mean, come on people! Give it a rest with the "It's just a clone" crap. It's getting REALLY old...

Justin-- who IS excited for another B&M coaster in Cali

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Tuesday, February 25, 2003 1:13 PM
"DUH"! Some of us explained a long time ago that this coaster was a mirror. Why do you think SFMM was so coy in their announcement of the ride? And why do you think they're putting so little into the theming and landscaping of the ride? This ride reeks of a last minute decision to add a quality ride at low cost, in the quickest way possible.

I personally would have perferred a mirror of Nitro, but then we already have Goliath. And yes, the colors are wonderful.

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*** This post was edited by DWeaver 2/25/2003 6:20:52 PM ***

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Tuesday, February 25, 2003 6:28 PM
Wow. And the whole bunch of you just figured it out? It's like you're just realizing Bush is the new president, HELLO old news.
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Tuesday, February 25, 2003 6:59 PM
vertical loop-dive loop-camelback twist-cobra roll-90 degree helix-MCBR-speed hill-interlocking corkscrews-speed hill-brakes

Scream IS a clone :P of medusa, so? it wouldnt be a bit better if they scrambled the elements, *sigh* we all know this will be a very good coaster ya?

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Tuesday, February 25, 2003 7:12 PM
Actually, if that was the order of elements it wouldn't be a clone of Medusa. The MCBR needs to come before the 270-degree helix.

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James Draeger
-Captain Sarcasm (aka Sour Boy)

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Tuesday, February 25, 2003 7:14 PM

DWeaver said:
This ride reeks of a last minute decision to add a quality ride at low cost, in the quickest way possible.

Now I'm not all that familiar with the inner workings of the industry, but I'm pretty sure that multi-million dollar "last minute decisions" don't happen.
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Tuesday, February 25, 2003 8:28 PM
If it is a mirror, you people shouldnt complain at all. The Zero G roll is great, as are the interlocking corkscrews. Just another high quality coaster for all you lucky californians!!
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Tuesday, February 25, 2003 10:47 PM
"Now I'm not all that familiar with the inner workings of the industry, but I'm pretty sure that multi-million dollar "last minute decisions" don't happen".

In the world of Six Flags, yes it does. Thought you knew...

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"Oh tell me why, do we build castles in the sky, oh tell me why, all the castles way up high".

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Tuesday, February 25, 2003 11:03 PM
any1 know a website for good pics of medusa?
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Wednesday, February 26, 2003 1:39 AM
"Dude, its not a mirror. It has some of Medusa East's elements, but in a different order and layout."

This would ruin the point of putting in a clone. A clone saves time and money not having to draw up plans, etc. If they used a different layout and order of elements, it would be it's own unique coaster.

--Ryan

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Wednesday, February 26, 2003 3:36 AM
Since Six Flags is in debt. I can see why they would go for the clone. Although I don't like clones. But I can see the reasons, and totally understand in SF state. If I was running the Co. I would do the exact same thing. The GP doesn't know the difference! Only hardcore enthusiasts, who do not make up all of the parks income.
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Wednesday, February 26, 2003 5:13 AM

DWeaver, quoting AA said:
"Now I'm not all that familiar with the inner workings of the industry, but I'm pretty sure that multi-million dollar "last minute decisions" don't happen".

In the world of Six Flags, yes it does. Thought you knew...


So THAT'S why we were able to pick up stock in PKS for 3.50/share. I just *knew* there had to be a reason...;). Seriously though, the decisions SFI has made in the past 6 months or so speak VOLUMES...I suspect this recent fiscal restraint can only help them in the long run...
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Wednesday, February 26, 2003 7:01 AM
who cares if it's a clone. I wish Six Flags Darien Lake would atleast have one B&M clone or not
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Wednesday, February 26, 2003 7:43 AM
My point exactly jwhoogs. My point exactly.

Who cares if it's a clone? It's still a brand-spankin'-new B&M coaster for 2003. It's a crowd-pleaser, and that's exactly what SFMM needs after their patrons wait in a 4 hour long line for X. A TON of parks in the country or the world for that matter would love to have a brand-new B&M coaster, regardless of it's layout. Plus, it still helps the count! :)

Justin "B&M rules all" Adams ;)
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Wednesday, February 26, 2003 7:51 AM
I, as well, have never understood the whole 'clone' complaint.

Park guests don't skip ferris wheels, tilt-o-whirls, log rides, or other rides that have clones in just about every single park...*why* would any of us think they'd treat coasters any differently.

Why do people see movies they enjoyed more than once or even buy the DVD? Because they enjoyed it enough the first time and know they'll get enjoyment from it on further viewings. So if someone enjoyed their ride on Medusa East and came to SFMM they'd complain that "this is just like the one back home" and skip it?

Get real, people!

The only people who complain about clones are *enthusiasses.*


Moosh

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Wednesday, February 26, 2003 8:01 AM
The *clone complaint* is valid only under very SPECIFIC circumstances...the first and foremost is that it has to be a clone of a crappy ride. Vekoma Boomerangs fit this case. Beemers just don't....this coming from someone who *does* complain about the preponderance of Beemers here in the "showroom"...think about it....

...much as it pains me to admit it, 'Moosh is "spot on"...;)

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Wednesday, February 26, 2003 8:07 AM
alrite... arlok can u please not make these pointless topics. It is a roller coaster, it is a B&M, so i don't see how anyone could be dissing it already (unless you have vertigo, well maybe a mild case). Enjoy, and don't make these stupid posts.
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