PKI 2009 - CoasterBuzz

Coasterkid200 said:
How does it seem to massive? It isnt massive when it is 5,000 and 225 feet long. Look at these that are either taller or longer.

I was mainly alluding to the fact that the layout is not to scale on the map. The layout really is somewhat similar to Nitro, an L-shaped out and back with a helix at the end. The difference is the helix at the L-bend and the fact that the lengths between the hill, the L-bend, and the turnaround are all 'massive'. Remember that even Nitro, at more than 5000 ft., turns just after the first drop.

I think they could fit it in behind/next to Tomb Raider no problem.

SFGAdv lover said:
Gonch, that top 1% is mostly hypercoasters... so in the realm of hypercoasters, this one isn't massive.

That's a stretch. That's kind of like saying the basketball player who is 6' 7" isn't tall.

I think the point is hypercoasters themselves are a rarity and by nature they are massive rides.

coasterimage - lordgonchar

matt. said:
Coasterbuzzer said:
I say wait until the official announcement. I like speculating too, but I wouldn't take Screamscape's word for considering how horrible their track record is.
The source isn't Screamscape.

Oh yeah, it is Shaggy & Screamscape. I would believe Shaggy over Screamscape any day. He has been correct in the past. If you read KIC, they keep going on how Screamscape is nearly always right.

I'd say its massive...and if anyone knows size it's me! ;)

Son of Beast 2.0

What do you all think of a hypercoaster having only one, massive vertical loop? I think it would be pretty neat to blast through one deep in the woods when you're not expecting it.

Oh yeah, it is Shaggy & Screamscape.

No, it's the ECC's First Drop magazine.

Rumor has it that Don Helbig was spotted in a "Hypercoaster 2009" t-shirt at a Cincinnati Kroger the other day too. ;)

Chuck:

What's "flyers in a box"

Barring any unforseen changes, this coaster is getting built for the 2009 season. And as Moosh pointed out, it was first announced in First Drop so it's not like this originated from an unreliable source.

I'm with Gonch, it's a freakin' huge coaster. So what if it's 5 feet shorter than Nitro? It's still big. If anything, Kings Island is becoming part of an elite group. While they seem common, not many U.S. parks have hypercoasters and even fewer parks throughout the world have hypercoasters. Besides, the thing hasn't even been built yet and I already declare it the park's best coaster! What comes close? The neutered Racer and Beast? Firehawk? Italian Job? Seriously, this is like putting a Bentley Continental in a parking lot filled with Chrysler Sebrings.

"Oh yeah, it is Shaggy & Screamscape. I would believe Shaggy over Screamscape any day. He has been correct in the past. If you read KIC, they keep going on how Screamscape is nearly always right."

Again, you sling mud without even reading the topic. Shocking...

The posts are talking about how Screamscape, as a percentage, is commonly correct. Not that it's a credible source of information, but rather that it's more often than not right. (Of course 'more often than not' constitutes as little as 51% of the time).

Then again, 90 out of 100 people who post on any roller coaster site like to think that they have some sort of insider info or some sort of special connection in the industry.

Doesn't anyone realize that there's a whole 2008 season ahead of us before 2009 even comes? Kings Island has all sorts of great surprises lined up for the 2008 season and no one's even speculating. The park offers a lot more than just a bunch of rides. I, for one, am looking forward to 2008... and then I'll start worrying about 2009.

Media Director
KICentral.com

If it's named Dominator, I'll scream!

Come up with something new.
Chuck, who'd even take some old names that aren't used much anymore. Bobs, Comet, cyclone, dips.
ect

BoddaH1994 said:
Doesn't anyone realize that there's a whole 2008 season ahead of us before 2009 even comes?

First, being excited about 2009 =/= not being excited about 2008.

Second, this is a site called "Coasterbuzz" so expecting people to not be very very interested and very very excited about a major new coaster (in Ohio, no less) is a bit unrealistic. *** Edited 11/21/2007 1:01:07 AM UTC by matt.***

^ You're absolutely right. However, seeing what I've seen in this community, it's easy to assert that most people realize that there is a LOT more to any park than just coaster (or even just rides). Not saying you shouldn't be excited... even I'm cautiously excited... I'm just saying that if you're a KI fan, you have more to look forward to.. and sooner.

Media Director
KICentral.com

So if nobobdy in the thread has a bead on all the great stuff coming to KI in 2008 maybe you should inform us instead of just hinting and bemoaning that nobody's gabbing about it. :)

phantomrider3000 said:Chuck:What's "flyers in a box"

Something better than a top spin in a box

I didn't read the topic? First page first post says Screamscape rumor of hypercoaster for 2009 season. Granted, Screamscape may have taken that from First Drop, but first poster says Screamscape. It's not until page three that Shaggy chimes in to say he's heard the same thing, but from sources outside of Screamscape. Then, on the very same page, Boddah says, "Someone did the math on this. Screamscape destroys their own credibility by posting basically anything, but they're right almost 90% of the time. Take that for what it's worth." I would say that's a little more than being right more often than not.

Ok, consider me officially lost. How many different threads on how many different sites are we discussing now, and what exactly does any of it have to do with the price of tea in China?

One thread on KIC...new coaster for 2009. 35 pages. We ARE discussing rumors for 2009, so it does have to do with the price of tea in China.

It doesn't though because nothing in this thread was from Screamscape or Shaggy, who hasn't even posted here, it's all from First Drop.

If you have a problem with people on a different board why wouldn't you address it over there?

I don't have a problem with the peeps over at KIC. I was making light of the fact that it seems many of them believe Screamscape to be a reliable source. Then, Boddah called me out on these boards, so it was addressed here rather than there. Sorry I derailed the conversation here, but, I was just debating my POV.